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In reply to the discussion: Obama Says 'Defund The Police' Alienates Voters, Drawing Sharp Rebuke From The Left. [View all]Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)92. She is not saying to Pres. Obama...have you never seen her other posts?
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Obama Says 'Defund The Police' Alienates Voters, Drawing Sharp Rebuke From The Left. [View all]
brush
Dec 2020
OP
Care to explain what you mean? I mean we're talking about Pres. Obama here, not just some nobody.
brush
Dec 2020
#3
Not really familiar with her screen name, but this is a discussion board. I just wanted...
brush
Dec 2020
#121
It's just *awesome* the way Democratic centrists keep letting Republicans frame the debate
Spider Jerusalem
Dec 2020
#14
But many got tagged with it and lost. There was no "defund the police" bs when those seats...
brush
Dec 2020
#27
It matters, because some people are saying it *should* be used by candidates
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2020
#57
No, there's no evidence of the slogan or terms being a reason for down ballots losing.
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#29
Come on. You really don't think that hurt some Dem candidates who flipped red district...
brush
Dec 2020
#35
What I think doesn't matter as much as what I know; there's no evidence slogans or
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#37
Yeah, sure. Defund the police and radical socialism in negative repug ads had nothing to do...
brush
Dec 2020
#39
No, we would have evidence of such by now not guesses. If there was credible polling ...
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#43
That's polling on DTP not how it affected down ballot races. We need empirical information on how it
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#75
The best I can say your very specific empirical evidence requirements is
My Pet Orangutan
Dec 2020
#110
You can say its fact based evidence, that's well within the rules. Why would anyone on DU want to
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#114
Those are anecdotes not empirical evidence, show polls saying those slogans made Dems perform ...
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#46
Still not empirical evidence, the down ballot polling had dems performing well if a slogan
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#52
That's bad snark and not evidence either, why guess? why not just look at polling?
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#86
Oh, but "centrists" who won their elections because their message was not a problem for their
betsuni
Dec 2020
#38
+1, also there's no evidence that a slogan or term lost those down ballot races. Polling on those ..
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#34
Democrats didn't do it...Republicans ran with this unwise and damaging phrase which we as
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#94
And supporting(actively or just by inactivity) the police alienates other voters.
quakerboy
Dec 2020
#56
They say it because they don't have to worry about the consequences...jeeze....
LeftInTX
Dec 2020
#144
It's simple. 80% of cops are traffic cops. Self-driving cars are on the horizon.
joshcryer
Dec 2020
#58
i agree..the message could have been clear using other less divisive wordage...
samnsara
Dec 2020
#65
They will not listen. Instead, they're standing by their purity and doubling down.
Kahuna
Dec 2020
#67
We have to face facts that some who claim to be on our side are not on our side...we must learn to
Demsrule86
Dec 2020
#98
As usual, Obama is absolutely right. I can't count the number of ads that ran in my area...
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2020
#72
Lol "defund the police" is the COMPROMISE that mainstream Dems floated because "abolish the police"
WhiskeyGrinder
Dec 2020
#77
Oh, we'll still need emergency responses. Just not from a police model.
WhiskeyGrinder
Dec 2020
#112
Somalia does have a police force, so I'm not quite sure why you'd reference that country.
WhiskeyGrinder
Dec 2020
#116
Both Afghanistan and Somalia have had periods with no police. how'd that work out?
EX500rider
Dec 2020
#119
There's a difference between a failed state, and removing the police and filling that space with
WhiskeyGrinder
Dec 2020
#122
What ever you replace it with no matter what u called it would be the same thing
EX500rider
Dec 2020
#123
Actually, I think most of "The Left" thinks the "defund" wording is stupid too.
Silent3
Dec 2020
#97
This exactly. Stupid messaging is loser messaging and we lost some House seats because of it.
brush
Dec 2020
#125
I consider myself a Progressive. But these progressives don't have a clue.
LiberalFighter
Dec 2020
#101
Just learned a new word today, "amplification." Well, obviously I didn't just...
LAS14
Dec 2020
#102