The Squad needs to take a lesson from Obama. Nt (Reply #1)

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Squad Members Clap Back at Obama's 'Defund the Police' Clapback [View all]	George II	Dec 2020	OP
The Squad needs to take a lesson from Obama. Nt	mcar	Dec 2020	#1
And recognize that they are being destructive when they keep taking pot-shots	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2020	#2
I think clap back has used its usefulness	jimfields33	Dec 2020	#20
I rarely see them attacking Republicans	mcar	Dec 2020	#52
I think that's what bothers me the most	PatSeg	Dec 2020	#57
+1	treestar	Dec 2020	#95
If you have to explain what "defund the police" means. . .	DinahMoeHum	Dec 2020	#3
Exactly	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Dec 2020	#71
Yes indeed. People forget how Obama got his start - as a community organizer. From where I sit...	George II	Dec 2020	#102
Yep	PatSeg	Dec 2020	#54
Obama lost downticket badly during his years, and	radius777	Dec 2020	#91
Ms. Porter Grills Rs	ProfessorGAC	Dec 2020	#101
Yes, he learned from experience	PatSeg	Dec 2020	#106
Yes. Because Obama's two terms would have been SO much more successful	stopdiggin	Dec 2020	#113
Obama didn't lose "downticket". He won every one of his own races, both statewide & nationally.	Tarheel_Dem	Dec 2020	#138
The poster was talking about the "thumping"	wellst0nev0ter	Dec 2020	#147
Aw Jeez! I know "The Squad" has a fan club here, but like another failed presidential candidate,	Tarheel_Dem	Dec 2020	#158
"This is despite taking cues from Lieberman and the rest of the non-radicals."	betsuni	Dec 2020	#159
Urban districts like those represented by the Squad are why Biden won.	radius777	Dec 2020	#157
This.	cwydro	Dec 2020	#75
Why couldn't the slogan have been "Reform the Police"	exboyfil	Dec 2020	#4
"Reform the Police" has been failing for decades.	Jirel	Dec 2020	#14
Sorry Nope...	caber09	Dec 2020	#66
It depends on what your goal is.	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#70
Yes it does..	caber09	Dec 2020	#72
.	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#74
You continue to move forward, not cost us and help us move backward..	caber09	Dec 2020	#79
People like George Floyd cannot afford baby steps.	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#83
You want the police to be abolished? are you serious?	caber09	Dec 2020	#84
Yes.	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#85
The Republicans thank you for your help..chaos is not a winning strategy.	caber09	Dec 2020	#86
Yeah, it's not really an issue that lends itself well to electoral politics.	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#124
You are so full of it...you need a plumber...	caber09	Dec 2020	#130
We can develop all sorts of emergency responses that have nothing to do with the control-and-punish	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#131
Sorry you are full of it...	caber09	Dec 2020	#132
I mean, if a guy is attacking me, you're right -- in the moment, I'm worrying about my own	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#133
Well at least you admitted something..	caber09	Dec 2020	#134
"Well at least you admitted something.."	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#135
"Again, I'm unbothered. Activism work sometimes works hand-in-hand with electoral politics.."	caber09	Dec 2020	#136
Police kill people no matter who is mayor, governor or president, or which party has the majority	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#137
99% of them protect & serve, please get your head on straight...	caber09	Dec 2020	#139
"Of course we need to reform more and make them more accountable"	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#140
Make them accountable for their wrong doing, fire them if guilty...	caber09	Dec 2020	#141
.	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#143
You think you are living in a utopian universe that does not exist..	caber09	Dec 2020	#145
.	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#146
that's pretty crazy	stopdiggin	Dec 2020	#114
I'm not concerned about where I stand when it comes to electoral politics.	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2020	#125
Historically both parties have been complicit in systemic racism and policing issues.	radius777	Dec 2020	#96
"Reform" is popular because it is utterly meaningless	Bettie	Dec 2020	#103
You get it. The cops laugh at 'reform'.	radius777	Dec 2020	#107
I'm also GenX and have been hearing	Bettie	Dec 2020	#109
Where do you guys live? I would love to know the districts you are in and see how it matches..	caber09	Dec 2020	#112
So, no one where you live believe that	Bettie	Dec 2020	#116
Thats a ridiculous answer..	caber09	Dec 2020	#119
AGREED.	Basement Beat	Dec 2020	#73
Exactly. FTP is the slogan I would use. But seriously	radius777	Dec 2020	#93
They won't be helped by an ineffective slogan	treestar	Dec 2020	#97
Exactly, some people who should be on our side seem not to mind more Rs in office apparently	caber09	Dec 2020	#111
They won't be helped by an ineffective slogan	treestar	Dec 2020	#98
Because we've been "reforming the police" for decades	Mariana	Dec 2020	#16
Apparently, we're supposed to ignore that	Bettie	Dec 2020	#105
I 100% agree!! nt	USALiberal	Dec 2020	#63
From the article --	Klaralven	Dec 2020	#5
So who do they call when someone	exboyfil	Dec 2020	#6
They'll probably call someone who will show up six hours later,	deucemagnet	Dec 2020	#123
Will the police ever solve that crime?	wellst0nev0ter	Dec 2020	#148
I've seen at least one of "the squad" actually say this summer "abolish the police".....	George II	Dec 2020	#7
It was attributed to Omar in June	FBaggins	Dec 2020	#19
Yes, I believe that was what	PatSeg	Dec 2020	#58
If their goal is to actually abolish the police,	jrthin	Dec 2020	#9
There was a very sobering report on The Newshour last week (I think) about...	LAS14	Dec 2020	#10
Yeah, I agree. It is a knotty problem and both sides are right.	KPN	Dec 2020	#24
He wasn't criticizing the protests,	LAS14	Dec 2020	#43
We have different perspectives.	KPN	Dec 2020	#45
That is an interesting way to say 'maybe I was wrong about that."	SlogginThroughIt	Dec 2020	#69
It is awfully presumptive...	tonedevil	Dec 2020	#77
I didn't presume that.	SlogginThroughIt	Dec 2020	#87
Guess you were just saying. /nt	tonedevil	Dec 2020	#88
We have different perspectives on that. There are those who can extrapolate ...	KPN	Dec 2020	#89
It is not a slogan, but also not great communication.	Caliman73	Dec 2020	#53
They're right.	Jirel	Dec 2020	#8
That's why there's a problem with the slogan. It's that racists can successfully twist it and turn.	LAS14	Dec 2020	#11
Racists successfully can twist ANY phrase.	Jirel	Dec 2020	#18
Bingo. The Rs run around nakedly violating every	KPN	Dec 2020	#27
Some pack more of a punch when twisted. Defund the Police, while accurately...	LAS14	Dec 2020	#41
The phrasing is not the main problem	treestar	Dec 2020	#99
have to disagree	stopdiggin	Dec 2020	#115
I agree. I think I was thinking of the idea	treestar	Dec 2020	#128
Any problem isn't any slogan, it's what the slogan represents and how people interpret it...	George II	Dec 2020	#13
Ah, short memories.	Jirel	Dec 2020	#21
No its not...	caber09	Dec 2020	#68
And that is why seasoned politicians	PatSeg	Dec 2020	#59
LOL	BannonsLiver	Dec 2020	#17
No, it is just a really bad slogan	dansolo	Dec 2020	#39
The purpose of a slogan is to successfully market	Phoenix61	Dec 2020	#42
Hmmm. Sounds very similar to what I heard a few years ago on another topic	gratuitous	Dec 2020	#12
Sorry, I disagree - not even close.	George II	Dec 2020	#15
You're totally right	gratuitous	Dec 2020	#22
Reform the police has broad support on both sides of the aisle	AmericanCanuck	Dec 2020	#31
Oooh, if only we used the right word	gratuitous	Dec 2020	#51
Maybe seven votes out of 400K	exboyfil	Dec 2020	#65
No one is questioning that police reforms are	Phoenix61	Dec 2020	#47
Police reforms are toothless	wellst0nev0ter	Dec 2020	#149
And what exactly does "shape up" mean.	Phoenix61	Dec 2020	#150
Wow so complicated	wellst0nev0ter	Dec 2020	#151
Apparently too complicated for you to say what	Phoenix61	Dec 2020	#152
I know when something is not worth my time	wellst0nev0ter	Dec 2020	#154
Like I said, short of a bad slogan you don't	Phoenix61	Dec 2020	#155
Straw man	treestar	Dec 2020	#100
Those who are too comfortable with the status quo keep making the same mistakes.	Jirel	Dec 2020	#25
Baby step progress is not status quo.	AmericanCanuck	Dec 2020	#34
Stop with this BS...this is nonsense..	caber09	Dec 2020	#81
+1	betsuni	Dec 2020	#120
We literally lost this seat over Defund the Police.	Gothmog	Dec 2020	#35
Sort of OT	BannonsLiver	Dec 2020	#23
She is not volatile and incendiary enough?	AmericanCanuck	Dec 2020	#29
You may be right	BannonsLiver	Dec 2020	#36
If Katie could bottle up her passion and give it to every Democratic congressperson out there	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#56
Porter is plenty inciendary, just she's a cherubic white woman,	radius777	Dec 2020	#129
Because She Remembers Who The Enemy Is?	ProfessorGAC	Dec 2020	#104
Yes, I appreciate the all business approach.	BannonsLiver	Dec 2020	#108
I Think I Would Take Political Advice from the Greatest Politician of Our Generation	Skraxx	Dec 2020	#26
This is akin to smaller animals in the jungle kvetching at a lion.	AmericanCanuck	Dec 2020	#28
I am starting to wonder if they are republicans in disguise?	GemDigger	Dec 2020	#30
They're not Republicans	BannonsLiver	Dec 2020	#40
I know they aren't. People are stupid and to them "defund the police" means get rid of the PD in	GemDigger	Dec 2020	#46
Yep	BannonsLiver	Dec 2020	#49
Obama Says 'Defund The Police' Alienates Voters, Drawing Sharp Rebuke From The Left	Gothmog	Dec 2020	#32
I remember in the 60s the slogan was "If you don't like the cops, call a hippie.".	marie999	Dec 2020	#33
"and if you go carryin' pictures of Chairman Mao ..."	stopdiggin	Dec 2020	#117
Obama is 100%	AlexSFCA	Dec 2020	#37
Ya know, if police are murdering Americans,	KPN	Dec 2020	#38
I see the "they oughta wanna" syndrome here.	LAS14	Dec 2020	#44
Worst slogan in modern politcal history.	tman	Dec 2020	#48
I lulz'd	KG	Dec 2020	#50
The Squad needs to learn not to be so pig headed. You shouldn't continue to defend a term	Vinca	Dec 2020	#55
How many people are actually in the 'squad'? Any new members?	Demsrule86	Dec 2020	#61
The problem is right here	peggysue2	Dec 2020	#60
That was the message that was picked up by the Minneapolis City Council. Someone introduced....	George II	Dec 2020	#82
Ya think?	peggysue2	Dec 2020	#90
Defund the police sounded like we wanted complete anarchy in the streets	Jamesyu	Dec 2020	#62
Obama is correct. Defund the police has "lose" all over it.	TheCowsCameHome	Dec 2020	#64
Obama is right	WA-03 Democrat	Dec 2020	#67
It is the worst slogan in modern political history	AnyFunctioningAdult	Dec 2020	#76
Amen, right on, 10000% Agreed...defund the PD is a great path to Republican majority rule, no thanks	caber09	Dec 2020	#80
Bleh	Dem2	Dec 2020	#78
I'm happy to see that progressives on the ground in Georgia seem to understand Obama's point.	LAS14	Dec 2020	#92
A few more paragraphs, it's a very good article. Both Warnock and Ossoff know what wins in GA:	George II	Dec 2020	#94
real adults, doing real politics! who knew? (nt)	stopdiggin	Dec 2020	#118
Why 'Defund The Police' Attacks Were So Potent Against Democrats	Gothmog	Dec 2020	#110
Unbelievable that we are arguing (the party is) over branding...	JCMach1	Dec 2020	#121
They seem really really attached to certain slogans. As if the slogan was more important than the	betsuni	Dec 2020	#122
"Clap back".. lol. President Obama is	Cha	Dec 2020	#126
Yep, and they're using that bullshit against Warnock and Ossoff in the GA run-offs.	GoCubsGo	Dec 2020	#142
Of course the maggots are using this	Cha	Dec 2020	#144
Everyone in this thread saying reform hasn't worked	BGBD	Dec 2020	#127
You are 100% correct! It has been working and will still be working, and reform will continue....	George II	Dec 2020	#156
Obama is right. I can't believe this is even a debate.	Blasphemer	Dec 2020	#153

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