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Crunchy Frog

(26,548 posts)
62. Good luck changing the status quo without getting enough Dems elected.
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 08:16 PM
Dec 2020

You can be as right and righteous as you want to be, but you won't bring about serious change without Democrats controlling enough levers of power.

REFORM! elleng Dec 2020 #1
do you know how long the 'reform the police' effort has gone on MadLinguist Dec 2020 #11
SORRY, but THESE days 'centrism' keeps the Democratic party thriving. elleng Dec 2020 #14
here's another Democrat stopdiggin Dec 2020 #25
Yup. The RW would demonize BLM radius777 Dec 2020 #44
Reform is what led to George Floyd. The system cannot be reformed. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #56
REFORM SLAVERY! Lancero Dec 2020 #96
President Obama is right. Blue_true Dec 2020 #2
I agree Gothmog Dec 2020 #26
He's right and she needs to learn about wording and phrasing... Chicago1980 Dec 2020 #3
She won her race wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #98
And congratulations to her... Chicago1980 Dec 2020 #100
In a race where once she won the primary virtually any person could have won with a D by their name dsc Dec 2020 #101
You can't fix problems Suburban Warrior Dec 2020 #4
+1000 Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #7
Hell No it is NOT.. & James Clyburn is Cha Dec 2020 #10
I trust Barack Obama's and James Clyburn's instincts and opinions on this. George II Dec 2020 #72
+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #73
They said the same thing about marriage equality. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2020 #12
Like saying "I think the whole issue of marriage is a state issue" in order not to alienate betsuni Dec 2020 #22
Like saying... melman Dec 2020 #23
That person never pretended not to have evolved on the issue. betsuni Dec 2020 #24
We literally lost this seat over Defund the Police. Gothmog Dec 2020 #35
Rose spent the entire race trying to placate a smear campaign wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #99
The problem isn't the ideas for reform BainsBane Dec 2020 #87
We literally lost this seat over Defund the Police. Gothmog Dec 2020 #36
DING DING DING DING DING DING! nt Kahuna Dec 2020 #58
It is a stupid slogan that hurts Democrats. dalton99a Dec 2020 #5
Just like "gay marriage" was in 2004 wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #18
!! precisely!! MadLinguist Dec 2020 #19
That's why it became known as "same sex marriage". George II Dec 2020 #42
The way global warming became climate change lame54 Dec 2020 #50
Exactly. When a slogan generates negative connotations and comments it's wise to change that slogan. George II Dec 2020 #69
Didn't matter what we called it back then wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #77
So you're saying that "Defund the Police" will be the norm with us in 2036? Polybius Dec 2020 #83
No, it's a license for the GOP to double down on repression. relayerbob Dec 2020 #6
Activists on the ground created it. Maybe they weren't even voters. nt Kahuna Dec 2020 #59
On the ground in Moscow, is my wild guess relayerbob Dec 2020 #66
Thank YOU, President Obama! Cha Dec 2020 #8
Excellent point here, Cha. NT Prof.Higgins Dec 2020 #13
TY, Prof.. you make excellent points in Cha Dec 2020 #15
AGREE!!!! bluestarone Dec 2020 #53
Pres. Obama was Ill. legislator for many years and knows how self-destructive Prof.Higgins Dec 2020 #9
President Obama is absolutely correct, it is a terribly dumb and out of touch slogan. tritsofme Dec 2020 #16
Suicidal slogan championed by the fringe AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #17
Exactly. Obama is right. And the brand building is R B Garr Dec 2020 #84
Reallocate police funding to more effective programs pat_k Dec 2020 #20
No one has objected to... tonedevil Dec 2020 #32
When did that happen exactly? EX500rider Dec 2020 #41
I see nothing about being adjusted for inflation. pat_k Dec 2020 #46
If both State & Fed budgets have gone up every year there has been no "defunding" nt EX500rider Dec 2020 #52
Ignores both points I made. pat_k Dec 2020 #55
In That Chart... ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #57
Thanks! pat_k Dec 2020 #71
Your Last Paragraph ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #76
It is amazing. pat_k Dec 2020 #78
A more accurate chart. pat_k Dec 2020 #74
Just taking inflation into account, 2005 would be $375 billion. marie999 Dec 2020 #60
On the contrary. . . pat_k Dec 2020 #45
Absolutely idiotic slogan. awesomerwb1 Dec 2020 #21
Meanwhile, this is the "absolute genius" that is "fund the police" ck4829 Dec 2020 #29
With respect, a mandate is something that comes stopdiggin Dec 2020 #27
Take everything you want to accomplish with it ibegurpard Dec 2020 #28
I don't have a problem with it Spider Jerusalem Dec 2020 #30
Why 'Defund The Police' Attacks Were So Potent Against Democrats Gothmog Dec 2020 #37
+1. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2020 #85
The phrase is too simplistic. Sorry. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2020 #31
Why are people so insistent on dying on hills for a specific word? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2020 #33
Obama Says 'Defund The Police' Alienates Voters, Drawing Sharp Rebuke From The Left Gothmog Dec 2020 #34
So she's doubling down on that slogan (which it IS) and calling out President Obama about it? George II Dec 2020 #38
Yep... with all due respect equals bless his heart.. it is an insult. Peacetrain Dec 2020 #39
Well bless her heart, she seems to not understand what "mandate" means. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #47
Who even is she? treestar Dec 2020 #65
Okay, so we defund the police. Then what? A guy breaks into your house Vinca Dec 2020 #40
Vinca, binary & hyperbolic hypotheticals like yours make me insane. maxsolomon Dec 2020 #48
OMG - you are so overestimating the Republican mind. Why do you think so many down ballot Vinca Dec 2020 #51
So your scenario was a hypothetical Republican reaction? maxsolomon Dec 2020 #54
It's not just partisan Relevance Republicans that think that way JI7 Dec 2020 #75
The bottom line is people can spend their time and energy defending 3 words or forget Vinca Dec 2020 #90
The GOP will NEVER let us forget those 3 words. maxsolomon Dec 2020 #91
That would come across with De-militarize the police treestar Dec 2020 #64
I've bandied that one about. maxsolomon Dec 2020 #89
hmmm uponit7771 Dec 2020 #93
We both agree on the meaning of "Defund the Police".... PragmaticLiberal Dec 2020 #81
Are they in charge of the Democratic Party? City Governments? maxsolomon Dec 2020 #88
+1, I'm thinking whatever slogan used was going to be demonized no matter what. uponit7771 Dec 2020 #92
She lives in North St. Louis, in that scenario, you get shot, by the cops... Humanist_Activist Dec 2020 #68
Post removed Post removed Dec 2020 #43
Such an idiotic slogan Hav Dec 2020 #49
If worse came to worst, we could do without the votes of the tiny few who say "defund the police." gulliver Dec 2020 #61
Good luck changing the status quo without getting enough Dems elected. Crunchy Frog Dec 2020 #62
Then there needs to be proof that using "defund" treestar Dec 2020 #63
We need a simple phrase that means "Hold Police Accountable" 986racer Dec 2020 #67
Yep good idea, let's stop paying police officers... cbdo2007 Dec 2020 #70
Explain to us what it means then BainsBane Dec 2020 #79
BS The police do an excellent job. KWR65 Dec 2020 #80
Now that is BS. nt BainsBane Dec 2020 #86
The 1% who do it wrong don't face consequences. Folk know LEOs aren't perfect but they shouldn't ... uponit7771 Dec 2020 #95
Ugg, this doesn't help Polybius Dec 2020 #82
Obama is correct!!! Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #94
I lulz'd KG Dec 2020 #97
Defund the Police is a bad platform LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #102
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