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tymorial

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39. You missed the point that their citizenry have far far less guns
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 07:57 PM
Dec 2020

They have a problem with knife crime far more than guns. We have the opposite. Until this country does something about the mass proliferation of both legal and illegal guns owned and used here, i cannot imagine any scenario where law enforcement will agree to disarm patrol.

And quite frankly, as much as I loath all of the police misconduct, I agree. I wish we could be in a situation like UK where it is "when necessary." We aren't anywhere near that so how can we expect officers risk approaching a domestic disturbance call knowing there is a high possibility that someone may have a gun and aren't afraid to use it?

There is definitely a problem in this country in regards to law enforcement behavior and culture. That isn't going to change just by taking guns away. Education, community based policing and civilian review boards will have a far more reaching impact and we need local government on board to implement those changes.

Again and again. empedocles Dec 2020 #1
There was a thread on this a couple of days ago. brush Dec 2020 #2
Disarm and drug test the police Blues Heron Dec 2020 #3
Disarm the police Loki Liesmith Dec 2020 #5
It's not a slogan, it's real Blues Heron Dec 2020 #7
You believe the majority believe that the police should be disarmed, and that would be a winning still_one Dec 2020 #11
They have a lot less people with firearms. tymorial Dec 2020 #14
Exactly - when necessary Blues Heron Dec 2020 #25
They also have MI-5 and can call in the SAS and other military units as needed. Klaralven Dec 2020 #29
They have less guns. tymorial Dec 2020 #40
You missed the point that their citizenry have far far less guns tymorial Dec 2020 #39
You are selling a product Americans won't buy Loki Liesmith Dec 2020 #17
It's just a post dude, not selling anything Blues Heron Dec 2020 #26
The police in Northern Ireland are armed. We're more like Northern Ireland in social disorder. Klaralven Dec 2020 #23
not even close. Blues Heron Dec 2020 #27
Domestic groups that hate each other, organized crime, youth gangs, international terrorists? Klaralven Dec 2020 #28
Not at all Blues Heron Dec 2020 #35
The UK doesn't have 400 million guns in circulation among its population. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #44
No kidding. This really isn't rocket science still_one Dec 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Dec 2020 #9
They were talking about this on The View yesterday Rorey Dec 2020 #4
Yep. It's that and more. tymorial Dec 2020 #16
Very well said Rorey Dec 2020 #18
Both matter - some really are saying take all the money away from the police Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #22
You're right, of course Rorey Dec 2020 #38
He's right. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2020 #6
To quote Rep.-elect Jamaal Bowman, "The problem is America's comfort with Black death -- WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #10
Doesn't matter what the problem is Loki Liesmith Dec 2020 #19
Exactly, Jamaal Bowman is much more connected with the base radius777 Dec 2020 #21
I don't get why anyone can possibly believe "defund the police" doesn't scare the shit... brush Dec 2020 #30
Cops are greedy right-wingers who just want to get paid. radius777 Dec 2020 #34
Pls don't paint the whole BLM movement as favoring that dumb ass slogan. brush Dec 2020 #37
I think... Mike Nelson Dec 2020 #12
"Re-fund the police!" - Yes! NT Rorey Dec 2020 #20
"Re-fund the police" is good. Just the difference of one letter makes a huge improvement. brush Dec 2020 #31
The first time I heard that I said "here we go again with another sure demosincebirth Dec 2020 #13
I don't think we should stop paying police officers. cbdo2007 Dec 2020 #15
It's not hard. Without police, neighborhood vigilante groups will form and work for free. Klaralven Dec 2020 #24
Do you really think that would work long-term, anything longer than a weather emergency? brush Dec 2020 #32
What specifically leads you to believe... LanternWaste Dec 2020 #41
They wouldn't necessarily be less racist. The KKK is an example of a volunteer order enforcing group Klaralven Dec 2020 #42
I could see assholes from the RIGHT WING side join the protesters doing this. bluestarone Dec 2020 #33
How about "Burn this shit down and start all over again" because police funding as it is now Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #36
Any slogan you have to explain and qualify... Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #43
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