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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,384 posts)
42. This really frustrates me
Sun Dec 20, 2020, 10:04 PM
Dec 2020

And it's not just him saying it but go on just about any progressive/left-wing discussion forum and you hear basically the same argument, essentially attacking Democrats for "not doing enough"- while completely ignoring how Congress works, how Presidents work and how much power they have, and who is fighting against Democratic proposals. Not saying Democrats are absolutely perfect but if anybody is paying attention, they ARE trying to do more for all Americans but, in almost every instance, it's Republicans whom are consistently blocking more expansive Democratic policies and proposals. So then, it basically becomes a vicious cycle: Democrats propose and try to pass progressive and expansionist policies and Republicans obstruct them. And when they can't obstruct them, they go to the courts and try to block them or get them overruled them there. And then, progressive voters get depressed and then refuse to vote Democratic (or at all) in the next election(s), ensuring Republicans win seats and can obstruct more and/or enact their own, vastly worse policies. But do THEY get blamed? No. People like Bernie remain fixated on second-guessing and critiquing Democrats and blaming them for not getting some through. They think that if they yell loud enough, rip off their shirts and bare their chests, or call out Republicans enough that Republicans will listen to them. It just doesn't work that way. Republicans don't care and they lost their sense of shame eons ago. What we need are votes, which means we need to get out to vote for Democrats over and over again until Republicans can't keep gumming up their works with their mindless obstructionism.

Wait, what? Trailrider1951 Dec 2020 #1
I know.. that doesn't make any sense. Cha Dec 2020 #2
Yes, so what could the Democratic Party do Voltaire2 Dec 2020 #23
Thank you StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #51
White males, we have been saying this is Sanders demographics and target while being told otherwise. LizBeth Dec 2020 #3
I'd really like to see Bernie take on the Republicans for a change The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #4
Yes empedocles Dec 2020 #5
Sanders said he would vote against Pelosi UI relief if it did not have the 1200 in there for all LizBeth Dec 2020 #7
Brainwashing And Radicalizing DanieRains Dec 2020 #6
Our new Administration Deuxcents Dec 2020 #8
Sanders has been saying this for the last two presidential cycles... brush Dec 2020 #9
I also don't see him sponsoring any bills that address his own complaints. Squinch Dec 2020 #17
Bernie thinks he fulfilled his promise while the election was on, Hortensis Dec 2020 #10
I love Bernie, but he's wrong here... AmyStrange Dec 2020 #11
I don't & yeah he's doubly Wrong. Cha Dec 2020 #13
Exactly. It's precisely why I don't like him. kcr Dec 2020 #14
Absolutely agree. Cha Dec 2020 #20
At least you're not bat-shit crazy, and... AmyStrange Dec 2020 #15
+1, of course we know Sanders was talking about the "other" working class uponit7771 Dec 2020 #48
Bernie thinks he fulfilled his promise while the election was on, Hortensis Dec 2020 #12
I don't know about other states susanr516 Dec 2020 #16
Democrats do plenty for the ungrateful masses MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #18
Trump and the Pukes have lied to them and told them all the wonderful things he has done for them Autumn Dec 2020 #19
Oh my god, that last quote. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #21
The working class voters that Sanders is talking about dansolo Dec 2020 #24
Looks like voters who made less than 100,000 voted more for Biden in double digits. Sanders doesn't uponit7771 Dec 2020 #49
Bernie thinks that if you explain to people that they're voting against their economic interest they betsuni Dec 2020 #22
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles Dec 2020 #25
They really think that down here. Especially the union workers. Think the Dems are for the college LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #26
The House has passed a bill decriminalizing marijuana. betsuni Dec 2020 #27
People who bring this issue up never seem informed about it JI7 Dec 2020 #29
Yea, Racism is what it is. Even though a there are a heck of a lot of multiracial families LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #33
Even the socialist attacks is often about racism. What they really mean is they don't JI7 Dec 2020 #34
Why do they keep blaming Dems for the Republican Senate refusing to even vote on these laws? pnwmom Dec 2020 #28
They know nothing about how it works. One of the smartest guys I am familiar with was LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #35
They have been programmed to think a higher minimum wage will make things cost too much. They doc03 Dec 2020 #30
Free NASCAR tickets!! AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #44
Sanders is no progressive when he continues to push this bs JI7 Dec 2020 #31
Yea I know, but for some reason the wackadoodles down here like him. LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #36
They and Bernie think Democrats are wealthy elitists who ignore the working class, so... betsuni Dec 2020 #45
+1 LizBeth Dec 2020 #39
+1, Sanders is part of the reason dems have bad messaging on working class. uponit7771 Dec 2020 #50
Shut up Bernie... redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #32
Bernie needs to think two words: "Archie Bunker" andym Dec 2020 #37
I live and work among them. Most are far worse than Archie Bunker. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2020 #41
Bernie knows the Repukes won't listen to him FakeNoose Dec 2020 #38
I'm a white, blue collar worker, and Trump/The GOP doesn't do shit for me. Progressive Jones Dec 2020 #40
This really frustrates me Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2020 #42
It is hard to stay relevant AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #43
Exactly -- maintaining your brand even with election results R B Garr Dec 2020 #47
Good grief... SlogginThroughIt Dec 2020 #46
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