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Response to gulliver (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 03:54 PM

25. No, because that's nonsense. No one "fed him to the wolves." The debate did not go well.

From where does this logic come that everyone on Earth who would like for ____ politician or party to win an election is honor-bound to participate in spinning the facts?

That's not "having someone's back." That's empty-headed propagandizing. To the extent anyone had thrown up their hands and declared Obama was no longer a fit candidate, arguments like these could make a sliver of sense, but I didn't see that happening.

On the contrary, pretending that Obama standing there with his head down, absorbing gob-smacking untruths with no comment and allowing a doddering moderator to meander about randomly shutting him down was a successful debate strategy would be the opposite of support.

We aren't children. The world isn't children. We do no create reality by pretending that facts that do not conform to our wishes do not exist. That's what rightwingers do. Polls not in your favor? Call them biased. Job numbers favor the other side? Call it a conspiracy.

That's not us.

Those people have no credibility, because part of the entrance exam into the American rightwing and the Republican Party right now is idiocy. We're not able to have a conversation with those people. We're having a conversation with people who think about things and judge the truth as it appears before them.

No one missed that Obama had his facts straight in a way that Romney never does. They objected to him staring at his shoes instead of insisting on the truth. EVERYONE wanted to see that, including a substantial fraction of conservatives and Republicans who don't trust or like Romney. Everyone was looking to Obama to gently grab this smirking Republican idiot by his shiny lapels and explain to him that his zillion-dollar fortune and his soap star haircut and his incredibly vague references to a "plan" that clearly consists of nothing but further diverting our dwindling resources to himself and his yacht club buddies, do not qualify him to lead.

It was unfortunate. It would have been more unfortunate if Democrats had shown themselves to be as divorced from reality as Romney and his party. Because no matter how bad it gets and how thick the b.s. is flying, in the back of their minds, people look to us to have our Sanity Helmets firmly in place.

Nothing is more foolish or more destructive than the notion that we need to rip those Sanity Helmets off and adopt the blinkered partisan idiocy of the Republicans by telling everyone we won a debate even though we didn't, because we're still right on the issues.

We're not like them. We don't need to be like them. We don't think loyalty is blind approval or that our message is so important that we need to dissemble and paper over the truth whenever it's inconvenient to our cause.

The debate went badly. We still support our candidate. We hope and expect that he will represent our cause and himself better the next time around.

But either way, we will tell the truth.





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