Emotions play tricks with the truth usually. (Reply #39)

In the discussion thread: Can we all agree to stand our ground after the next debate? [View all]

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 04:08 PM

gulliver (10,326 posts)

39. Emotions play tricks with the truth usually.

In no way am I arguing for our side being inauthentic. In fact, the point of my post is that our side had authentic grounds to stand on and we didn't.

The implications of that do have an emotional impact unfortunately. The idea that "Obama lost the debate, not me" is pleasant, but that doesn't make it true.

Our secondary players and fans did a lot worse than Obama. That's all I am saying. And I'm saying it is the truth, not something we should force ourselves to pretend.

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86 replies	Author	Time	Post
Can we all agree to stand our ground after the next debate? [View all]	gulliver	Oct 2012	OP
Agreed wholeheartedly!	DemzRock	Oct 2012	#1
I didn't watch Current for the debates, but . . .	Shae	Oct 2012	#61
Disagree!	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#2
I kind of like DU and don't think it is "far off track"	gulliver	Oct 2012	#3
The Grover Norquist stuff is simple	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#6
Good post, Glittarati	Vietnameravet	Oct 2012	#12
Thanks!	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#13
Get a fucking grip	lunatica	Oct 2012	#28
LOL, you're telling ME to get a grip?	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#29
I sure am	lunatica	Oct 2012	#32
I have a very firm grip on sanity	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#37
Says the person who jumps off cliffs with hair on fire	lunatica	Oct 2012	#40
'Fraid not.	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#42
Wow...you are on hair-trigger. Lighten up and get a grip both. n/t	xocet	Oct 2012	#62
Oh, you're just so silly.	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#75
God forbid they should work to get a Democrat elected.	Cary	Oct 2012	#33
Are you responding to me?	lunatica	Oct 2012	#43
I was agreeing with you.	Cary	Oct 2012	#82
OK. Thanks for clarifying that	lunatica	Oct 2012	#83
That was a great post........	plethoro	Oct 2012	#59
We can't agree on anything.	MADem	Oct 2012	#4
Four more years	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#9
That's one thing all of us, save the odd concern trolls, can agree upon~! nt	MADem	Oct 2012	#20
WE just have to work harder	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#23
excellent	grasswire	Oct 2012	#5
I only watched 10 minutes	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#11
K & R!	lonestarnot	Oct 2012	#7
He needs to have our back, too.	woo me with science	Oct 2012	#8
Hahaha. Snort. Haha. WOLF!!!	DevonRex	Oct 2012	#16
You actually think what we post here is going to change anything?	cali	Oct 2012	#10
I actually do think that.	gulliver	Oct 2012	#14
holier than thou	graham4anything	Oct 2012	#24
Easy to blame "holier than thou"	tama	Oct 2012	#58
there is that ralph nader line again.	graham4anything	Oct 2012	#65
There are differences	tama	Oct 2012	#66
they want us to all clap and shout "good answer, good answer"	2pooped2pop	Oct 2012	#67
LOL, this really makes me laugh......	Logical	Oct 2012	#15
"Reality is an eye opener sometimes"	gulliver	Oct 2012	#18
Polls are tighter. No doubt about it. And the press has been good for Romney for the first time....	Logical	Oct 2012	#21
maybe.	robinlynne	Oct 2012	#63
Obama kicked Mittens ass. Though it takes smart people looking 9 steps ahead to see it	graham4anything	Oct 2012	#31
Hmmm, sounds more like "3D Chess" stuff to me again. Not a fan of it.	Logical	Oct 2012	#36
read Paul Waldman's "Fraud" about the Bush family	graham4anything	Oct 2012	#48
What a shitload of tinfoil	BeyondGeography	Oct 2012	#52
I am not into conspiracy theories. I am into fact. Fact=Obama won	graham4anything	Oct 2012	#53
Exaggeration	fanfan0711	Oct 2012	#81
I've got his back. Unlike some here. Nt	DevonRex	Oct 2012	#17
The Emperors New Clothes	etherealtruth	Oct 2012	#19
Which Emperor was naked this time tho?	gulliver	Oct 2012	#30
Clearly, you perceived Obama's performance as strong and powerful	etherealtruth	Oct 2012	#44
"He is capable of much better."	gulliver	Oct 2012	#50
I have his back.	CakeGrrl	Oct 2012	#22
I personally think some here are not who they proport to be	graham4anything	Oct 2012	#41
Bingo n/t	politicasista	Oct 2012	#70
No, because that's nonsense. No one "fed him to the wolves." The debate did not go well.	DirkGently	Oct 2012	#25
This would be an excellent OP	etherealtruth	Oct 2012	#27
Wow! An excellent post.	Glitterati	Oct 2012	#35
Emotions play tricks with the truth usually.	gulliver	Oct 2012	#39
I agree there was "substance" point to make & think we made it.	DirkGently	Oct 2012	#49
This message was self-deleted by its author	Blue Idaho	Oct 2012	#45
I've had his back all along	lunatica	Oct 2012	#26
Totally agree.	Cary	Oct 2012	#38
Well if you mean lack of integrity or quality of integrity	lunatica	Oct 2012	#46
the only thing willard didn't do is wag his wienie	NJCher	Oct 2012	#79
What, and miss the next righteous rant from WilliamPitt?	LiberalAndProud	Oct 2012	#34
I do not belong to an organized political party	Blue Idaho	Oct 2012	#47
ABSOLUTELY agree. I was so sorry that I even read DU as the debate was progressing	Raine	Oct 2012	#51
As the next one is town-hall format, I expect less opportunity for clash, so it is likely that	patrice	Oct 2012	#54
Thank you it is the spin we need to win	awake	Oct 2012	#55
DU is not the media and does not control it.	former9thward	Oct 2012	#56
We have to be honest even if it hurts	sevenseas	Oct 2012	#57
Honesty would include an effort to understand where one and one's cohoert stands in the	patrice	Oct 2012	#60
Obama blew it	The Old Creak	Oct 2012	#64
IMO, he didn't	politicasista	Oct 2012	#69
At this point, it's about the game	The Old Creak	Oct 2012	#74
He will be fine n/t	politicasista	Oct 2012	#77
Some of us expect	Aerows	Oct 2012	#68
Send this memo to MSNBC, Current, etc., etc...	regnaD kciN	Oct 2012	#71
And you want a repeat of that performance? Or a threepeat?	dkf	Oct 2012	#72
You're kidding yourself, and the Dems are not (LETTERS FROM THE PARTY)	jsmirman	Oct 2012	#73
I reserve my right to criticize either candidate	exboyfil	Oct 2012	#76
I agree, and I was one of the ones letting it get to me.	Lifelong Protester	Oct 2012	#78
Sick of it.	handsofthedevil	Oct 2012	#80
The Creator Gave Me A Perfectly Good Brain . . .	Le Taz Hot	Oct 2012	#84
the truth should always trump political allegiances	quinnox	Oct 2012	#85
Some of us need rubber sheeting to get through these things, And some of us keep our heads and	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#86

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