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BumRushDaShow

(128,519 posts)
63. This looks like complete and utter bullshit and quackery
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 07:51 PM
Jan 2021

First and foremost, is that they are somehow trying to associate "registered voters" from a database (and their ages) with "actual voters", where they would have NO IDEA who on a registered voter list, actually voted, let alone for who or their ages. Ballots are "secret".

As a note - the top 5 counties in the state of PA in terms of population are -

1.) Philadelphia
2.) Allegheny
3.) Montgomery
4.) Bucks
5.) Delaware

And out of 67 counties (as of 2012 data with the below), PA had 36 counties that had less than 100,000 population -

https://us-places.com/Pennsylvania/population-by-County.htm

Also as an illustrative note - the below is a map of the locations of most of PA's hundreds of colleges and universities and surprise surprise, it seems the counties that are being focused on also contain clusters of college/universities -




What they also don't seem to reveal is here in PA, ballots are not just some scrap of paper where you stick an "X" or fill in an oval next to the name and then shove into a box. The ballots (and envelopes for mail-ins or print-outs for machine voting) are barcoded and QR-coded specifically for the individual's precinct and is unique and tracked in the state's database.

ETA from our Lt. Gov. John Fetterman just today -




TEXT

John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
·
Jan 14, 2021
🚨
PA VOTER FRAUD ALERT
🚨


Big development for “Returns in Sunglasses”:

“Thurman was held for trial on felony charges of repeat voting at elections, and forgery, identity theft”
Chester County man facing trial for voter fraud says he was tricked into voting twice
EAST GOSHEN — Attorneys for a Willistown man who was charged with voter fraud in the November presidential election by casting a ballot in his son’s name are contending that
dailylocal.com

John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
Asking on behalf of Pennsylvania- Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick:
GIF
2:20 PM · Jan 14, 2021 from Braddock, PA


and he's even selling fund-raising merchandise about his "Dude in Forty Fort" (one of only two "fraud" cases in PA with both being Republicans)!




TEXT

John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
You’ve been demanding merch.

We heard you.
👂


SNEAK-PEAK: Limited-run commemorative shirts from our forthcoming collection:

(L) Dan Patrick wanted voter fraud. PA gave it to him. Now, where my money Dan?!

(R) The most famous case of voter fraud in
🇺🇸
: My dude in Forty Fort.
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Radical Liberal Nasty Dr. Mom
😉🍑”😷😷!”
@Drmomwhome
Replying to @JohnFetterman
Merch! Merch! Merch!
9:58 AM · Jan 13, 2021 from Pennsylvania, USA


Brings to mind an aphorism from the office...there's liars, damn liars and statisticians. lol n/t CincyDem Jan 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #3
Define suspicious birthdays Jerry2144 Jan 2021 #2
It's in the article. They're reporting an unlikely occurrence of DOBs on the 5th, 10th, 15th, & 20th Bucky Jan 2021 #8
It is still meaningless Jerry2144 Jan 2021 #37
Do they offer the years along with the days? angstlessk Jan 2021 #39
I only skimmed that article Hav Jan 2021 #56
If people do not provide a birthday they will choose Jan 1,1900 Bev54 Jan 2021 #34
birthdays? for real? stillcool Jan 2021 #4
Is the data even correct? LeftInTX Jan 2021 #5
Who the hell knows? I don't know how to go about looking up the answer Bucky Jan 2021 #13
I don't know of any Snopes or anything..the amount of data here is too much for an amateur LeftInTX Jan 2021 #28
Well the birthday stuff is cherry picked horseshit ismnotwasm Jan 2021 #6
I imagine so. But do you have a math-based argument to support that claim? Bucky Jan 2021 #15
If you're fighting fire with fire, try The Birthday Paradox: Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #55
Do you mean meth-based claims? mobeau69 Jan 2021 #7
LOL! Bucky Jan 2021 #25
Note lack of links to studies Bobstandard Jan 2021 #59
They were using a default date when the birth date exboyfil Jan 2021 #9
I thought of that, but the "default date" computerized registrations use are always the 1st... Bucky Jan 2021 #17
I have no idea what a suspicious birthday is JonLP24 Jan 2021 #10
The full article does. It's the high frequency of DOBs landing on the 5th, 10th, 15th, 20th, etc Bucky Jan 2021 #18
Everything they use to "expose" fraud ends up being 100% horseshit. Don't even play the game. kysrsoze Jan 2021 #11
I'm dealing with someone being suckered into their worldview, not the bullshitters themselves Bucky Jan 2021 #21
i was given an assignment in a statistics class KayF Jan 2021 #12
Yes, "what the judge said when he took it to court" is exactly what I need. Bucky Jan 2021 #30
There is no fact on the face of the Earth frazzled Jan 2021 #14
I'm not taking the lazy way out. Sorry Bucky Jan 2021 #31
Knock yourself out frazzled Jan 2021 #33
Here's compiled links debunking voter fraud, inc Pennsylvania blm Jan 2021 #16
Wait, are you saying voter fraud in PA hasn't been debunked? Bucky Jan 2021 #35
Links Debunking fraud INCLUDING Pennsylvania. blm Jan 2021 #51
Two things come to mind. Pobeka Jan 2021 #19
Thanks. Bucky Jan 2021 #38
The wording isn't even clear! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #20
Yeah, bad mathematicians tend to write like that. Bucky Jan 2021 #40
I majored in math (and physics), so I've seen... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #46
Don't try to challenge the data: you won't win brooklynite Jan 2021 #22
Good argument TheRealNorth Jan 2021 #29
Good stuff. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #32
This is good, but I'm good at doing those types of meta arguments. They're not persuasive. Bucky Jan 2021 #41
You could tell this person to download the datasets and look themselves LeftInTX Jan 2021 #49
This... LeftInTX Jan 2021 #43
If you must argue with a nut job then SharonClark Jan 2021 #44
Here you go Binkie The Clown Jan 2021 #23
THIS was what I was looking for! Thanks! Bucky Jan 2021 #45
I'm a math nerd, so I'm subscribed to his channel. :) nt Binkie The Clown Jan 2021 #47
Don't waste your time arguing with idiots and bad faith fascists greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #24
I'm arguing with someone being pulled by mathy talk from the gullible middle Bucky Jan 2021 #48
Would really need to see more on the methodology.... TheRealNorth Jan 2021 #26
I started reading that analysis about anomalies regarding vote updates Hav Jan 2021 #27
Yeah, that was my takeaway too. Bucky Jan 2021 #54
german nazis had all kinds of data and statistics to prove their claims nt msongs Jan 2021 #36
And science! OilemFirchen Jan 2021 #61
You are most likely wasting your time. These people get angry when presented with Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #42
The courts repeatedly said there is no evidence of fraud SoonerPride Jan 2021 #50
Tell him he should report what he knows. gibraltar72 Jan 2021 #52
You can't argue people out of their religious beliefs. Mariana Jan 2021 #53
The Second One Is Statistical Nonsense ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #57
Who are the experts? What is their expertise with voter data? LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #58
They didn't factor in the MPVFB*. OilemFirchen Jan 2021 #60
Yesterday nine of my FB friends had birthdays. Today only one. onenote Jan 2021 #62
This looks like complete and utter bullshit and quackery BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #63
Faulty "Assumptions" is their main problem. mackdaddy Jan 2021 #64
If this is just facebook debating, I suggest you turn it off. rgbecker Jan 2021 #65
This leaves out three salient points... jmowreader Jan 2021 #66
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