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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,407 posts)
23. I think that it still has at least SOME efficacy
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jan 2012

at least in the sense that most people hear it and just assume that it's something "bad" or foreign. Most people aren't knowledgeable enough to know that we have a somewhat "socialist" country already and that many of the public services we enjoy (a decreasing amount, however) are government-ran and managed and paid for by our taxes. I wonder how many people would be outraged and upset if more of them knew exactly how nice things are for most people in countries like Canada and most European countries in terms of health care, education, childcare, etc. Instead, unfortunately, we just get Fox News and other corporate media pundits smearing Europeans as a bunch of evil socialists and, in particular, their horrific free/low-cost health care system (even smart people I know have a raft of misconceptions and perceptions about health care in other countries). Heck, in terms of health care alone, if you listen to Rick Santorum, you'd think that European countries were literally sentencing people to die via real-life "Death Panels" if they happened to have certain diseases/genetic conditions or that you have to wait years for life-saving operations (or dying before getting them). Of course, most of it isn't true but we're Americans and a lot of us just seem to prefer getting constantly screwed over rather than wanting something more/better for ourselves and our children.

Sometimes I wonder if we have our own "Max" somewhere holding back social progress yet ensuring that we are none the wiser while they do it (Doctor Who fans should know what I'm talking about

I think he talked to someone at a cocktail party one time Whisp Jan 2012 #1
They live in upside down world. Marrah_G Jan 2012 #2
That's what the socialists said about FDR. JTFrog Jan 2012 #6
I think most democrats, including Obama, are socialists bigwillq Jan 2012 #3
If bailing out banksters with governmental funds is considered socialistic, then ... AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #4
Bush initiated the bankster bailout subterranean Jan 2012 #5
Agreed. Socialism for the super-rich. Many in this country. And they got away with it. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #13
TARP took place before Obama was sworn into office. sinkingfeeling Jan 2012 #7
Then the reasoning is what? It's OK. No investigations and prosecutions are necessary? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #14
Only half true. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #20
How the hell can we win elections when our own people repeat crap like that? banned from Kos Jan 2012 #12
If they got away with it once, they'll come back for more. Socialism for the super-rich. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #17
How do you know it's from "our people?" great white snark Jan 2012 #19
According to many of his most ardent detractors, he breathes . . . Journeyman Jan 2012 #8
Everybody in my house screams "We wish!" when we hear that accusation. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #9
He got elected President as a Democrat (nt) JaneQPublic Jan 2012 #10
There is one I can think of: student loans jpljr77 Jan 2012 #11
The GM thing was pure rescue capitalism. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #15
They mistakenly think that young people respond to the term used as an abusive epithet Norrin Radd Jan 2012 #16
I think that it still has at least SOME efficacy Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #23
He paid into Social Security. nt jschurchin Jan 2012 #18
beersharing. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #21
You're missing the point Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #22
I keep hearing the righties saying that, Rainngirl Jan 2012 #24
I'm a Socialist chaoszen Jan 2012 #25
Obamacare is a "health care industry profits guarantee plan" in the same way that... Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #26
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