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hfojvt

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44. sorry, Sam, you are just wrong about itemized deductions
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 11:14 AM
Oct 2012

get your tax facts here http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/169

Who gets most of the benefits from itemized deductions? http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/151

Those two groups (tax filers with AGI between $10,000 and $60,000) together are 65% of all adult taxpayers, only 22.8% itemize their deductions, and they only get 22% of the total.

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Then there's the other side. 321,294 filers make over $1,000,000, and almost 97% of them itemize their deductions. They are .28% of all adult taxpayers, but they get almost 11% of the total deductions. Since they pay at the highest rates, their deductions are also worth more. They get $141.6 billion in deductions whereas their standard deductions would be no more than $4 billion. Their itemized deductions are thus worth about $45 billion or about $141,000 per household.

The next richest group also does very well with itemized deductions. Those with incomes between $100,000 and $1,000,000. There are only 17.9 million of them which is only 15.4% of adult taxpayers, but they get 44.4% of the benefits as 88% of them itemize. They get $579 billion in itemized deductions versus the $204 billion they'd get from standard deductions. (and the $240 billion they'd get from the proposed higher deduction). That's about $118 billion a year in tax breaks going to a group that is in the top 20%.


78% of the benefits of itemized deductions goto those with AGI of more that $60,000. Less than 23% of those with incomes less than $60,000 itemized their deductions.

Getting rid of itemized deductions would NOT "hurt the middle and poor classes the most". It would "hurt" the rich and UPPER middle class the most.


If you want an answer to your question, reread YOUR FIRST SENTENCE of your 2nd paragraph. MADem Oct 2012 #1
I am pretty familiar with Nebraska's conservative bent -- however Samantha Oct 2012 #8
Unless you live in a place like NE Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #9
Hi Flyod_Gondolli -- take a look at SunSeeker's response below Samantha Oct 2012 #15
He was the head of the New School for friken ever. MADem Oct 2012 #13
No, he's running to get elected as a Democrat in a conservative, Republican-leaning state. Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #25
So you call asking a reasonable question "whining" Samantha Oct 2012 #32
"Reason with conservative republicans by telling them the simple truth" Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #35
I am not in the least naive Spider Jersusalem so please don't start out your response with a Samantha Oct 2012 #39
Exactly. BlueMTexpat Oct 2012 #28
It would destroy the housing industry and construction jobs, building trades Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #2
Fake democrat or a real republican, Truman was right ... uponit7771 Oct 2012 #3
Kerrey has never been a reliable defender of Democratic values. grasswire Oct 2012 #4
I live in Nebraska. Care Acutely Oct 2012 #5
I know Care Acutely, and that is why I said I am happy I do not live in Nebraska Samantha Oct 2012 #10
It's not much of a conundrum at all. Care Acutely Oct 2012 #53
+1,000,000! nt MADem Oct 2012 #14
Vote for him. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #6
I am sorry - don't get me wrong - I won't be happy if he loses Samantha Oct 2012 #11
He was a better senator than Ben Nelson. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #17
I understand LiberalAndProud -- and if you reread my thead I do not bash Kerrey Samantha Oct 2012 #34
Kerry will never be put to this "tough choice" because Dems (if they have any brains) will SunSeeker Oct 2012 #7
That is an excellent point, one less Repubican vote to support a filibuster Samantha Oct 2012 #12
It doesn't get any redder than NE? Oh yeah? abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #24
From your lips to God's ears. nt SunSeeker Oct 2012 #45
KerrEy!! n/t Inuca Oct 2012 #33
I'd rather have a bluedog Dem than a teabag ReThug. Sunseeker has some good points. Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #36
I Heard It and It was Disgusting LarryNM Oct 2012 #16
Bingo, LarryNM Samantha Oct 2012 #18
Watched it, didn't really like what he said. But, if I lived there, I would vote for him in a second winstars Oct 2012 #19
You know what winstars, I have had a hard time in this thread answering my own question but I think Samantha Oct 2012 #20
You seriously do not get it. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #27
Most Nebraskans are wrong to think that way Samantha Oct 2012 #30
There's an idea. You're stupid and wrong. Vote for me. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #47
You are putting words in my mouth Samantha Oct 2012 #49
The more you make Kerrey sound like a Dem...the more likely he will lose! nt Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #38
Is the objection to wanting to work with R's or about looking at SS/Med as possible cuts? NCLefty Oct 2012 #21
The objection is to caving to what Republicans insist on having to protect corporate interests Samantha Oct 2012 #31
He has been a deficit hawk forever and he has also had a big ego forever dsc Oct 2012 #22
That's about it... winstars Oct 2012 #23
Thank you. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #26
Former Navy SEALs do have a tendency to have big egos,... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #42
I am not saying he has no good qualities dsc Oct 2012 #43
The key to supporting Kerrey oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #29
Our party needs control of Congress to get anything done in the next four years. porphyrian Oct 2012 #37
That is an individual choice Dems living in conservative states faced with Blue Dogs running Samantha Oct 2012 #40
If Kerrey were running in Vermont, his rhetoric would be unforgivable cali Oct 2012 #41
sorry, Sam, you are just wrong about itemized deductions hfojvt Oct 2012 #44
Won't the very wealthy, should Romney win, receive a $250,000 or more tax cut? Samantha Oct 2012 #48
I dont understand why we have to go through this every two years. stevenleser Oct 2012 #46
I agree with you completely. I also enjoyed your "rocket surgery" description. nt MADem Oct 2012 #50
That would Clobber Me Financially Dirty Socialist Oct 2012 #51
My Congresswoman in NY 18, Nita Lowey, alsame Oct 2012 #52
Kerry is a blue-dog. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #54
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