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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #16)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 02:38 AM

71. 12 is more than a handful.

It isn't going into the reconciliation bill, even if Manchin and Sinema said they would vote for it. Biden is not going to allow the parliamentarian to be overruled, and sub-zero chance Harris backstabs him and does it anyway.

Manchin and Sinema will not support a standalone bill for 15 usd AND it will be be filibustered (60 voted need for cloture).

So you will need 12 Rethugs to cross the aisle.

Never happening.

We will be super lucky to tuck an 11 usd rate (maybe even lowered to 10 usd and spread out over 3, not 2 years) into a Defence spending bill and dare the Rethugs to block it.

Our party is too divided to ram shit through. It is the price we all pay for having centrists or even centre-right conservatives (Manchin calls himself moderately conservative) as the only types who can get elected in pink/purple/red states.

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