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hunter

(38,264 posts)
30. Oh god, spare me the "property values" crowd.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:31 PM
Mar 2021

Around here they are one of the reasons we have homeless people living in our parks.

You know what's worse for property values than public and low income housing?

It's people living under rotten tarps along the creek and shitting in the bushes.

It's the bitter resentful alcoholic adult children of "property value" parents who can't find housing, who end up hoarding guns and spewing QAnon shit from mom's illegal garage conversion.

That's why many older white people flee to fortified micro-managed adult communities. They are escaping the children and communities they themselves fucked up.

I'd much rather live next door to a fully functional multi-generational Mexican family, grandma taking care of the kids, parents working hard, cousins living in a spare bedroom, people working on cars in their driveway... than any failed white U.S.A. "nuclear" family.

Housing the homeless is actually a federal problem because many people migrate to places where they are less likely to die of exposure, are able to find food in the dumpsters, and not be killed or maimed by hostile locals. Establishing comfortable living wages for young adults is another government responsibility.

I grew up in affluent 99 44/100 percent pure white U.S.A.. Leaving that hell was the best thing I ever did. I actually feel sorry for my classmates who were "successful" and became part of that community. They seem lacking in many ordinary life experiences. But I feel much worse for those who were killed by it. A shocking number of my high school classmates are dead by suicide, drugs, car accidents, heart attacks and alcohol. But the "property values" in that place are among the highest in California. Very ordinary working class homes of the sort I grew up in sell for a million dollars.

Sorry for the rant, it's not directed at you personally.

HOAs serve a purpose. They work best in association with an attorney/consultant org. brush Mar 2021 #1
Just curious, Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #3
What you describe happens a lot...old cars in disrepair. brush Mar 2021 #4
Oh god, spare me the "property values" crowd. hunter Mar 2021 #30
Preach it Piasladic Mar 2021 #34
What's wrong with not wanting the value of your house to go down? brush Mar 2021 #40
There's a long history of racism in the U.S.A. hunter Mar 2021 #46
I know all about that. I know I'll have to stage the house without... brush Mar 2021 #47
Thank you for bringing up this important point. shrike3 Mar 2021 #50
Common thing where I live, too. n/t shrike3 Mar 2021 #8
I once believed in lawyers. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #5
It works for us here. The consultant group we have works with several... brush Mar 2021 #9
What's wrong with daycare? Wouldn't bother me. shrike3 Mar 2021 #7
Try living next to one SoCalNative Mar 2021 #10
I live next to one... three doors up the street. Tracer Mar 2021 #12
I've lived in all kinds of situations. As long as I can sleep at night, I don't care. shrike3 Mar 2021 #48
I have no problems with park playgrounds SoCalNative Mar 2021 #51
One recourse for you would be going to the town. I used to be a municipal reporter. shrike3 Mar 2021 #52
Never again for me fescuerescue Mar 2021 #28
It depends. If you live in an established neighborhood where... brush Mar 2021 #32
HOA's don't stop bad things from happening fescuerescue Mar 2021 #35
They don't happen again though if you get fined. brush Mar 2021 #39
That's not been my experience fescuerescue Mar 2021 #41
Guess it depends where you live. Sorry you've had bad experiences. brush Mar 2021 #43
Totally agree. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #2
Thank you. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #6
My friend and I called her HOA the "Neighborhood Nazis." Ka-Dinh Oy Mar 2021 #11
It happened to my friend in another development. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #14
They started that crap right after her husband died. Ka-Dinh Oy Mar 2021 #20
It depends on the judge. When I served on the board the attorney told us that Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #23
We live I Washington State so rules/laws might be different Ka-Dinh Oy Mar 2021 #26
Sounds typical fescuerescue Mar 2021 #42
Which is a good reason why people prefer to move elsewhere -- out of state. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #45
Wow, there are some horrible human beings out there. CentralMass Mar 2021 #25
If you don't pay your dues, they can do that. You have to stay on top of things. brush Mar 2021 #33
Our HOA is pretty good jimfields33 Mar 2021 #13
As long as they're fair, and not subjective. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #15
I definitely know that could happen jimfields33 Mar 2021 #17
I would never buy a home in an area that required HOA membership MissB Mar 2021 #16
I am glad you found a decent neighborhood without HOA. jimfields33 Mar 2021 #18
Why live in a development governed by an HOA? PJMcK Mar 2021 #19
Unfortunately, a condo needs an HOA of some sort fescuerescue Mar 2021 #44
Lots move there to file bankruptcy, don't they? Captain Zero Mar 2021 #21
Thankfully New England has LOTs of homes without HOAs NutmegYankee Mar 2021 #22
If I didn't know better, I would say that HOA's are the rule in Florida Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #24
That is probably true. The North doesn't have much HOA law. NutmegYankee Mar 2021 #27
I hope my testimonial of living in a HOA will provide necessary change to the system. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #29
I lived in NY in Westchester county in a heighborhood of nice Colonials... brush Mar 2021 #36
My mother-in-law lived in a small group of twin home townhomes. MineralMan Mar 2021 #31
Good for you. It's always good to see opportunities open up in these closed communities. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #37
Thanks. It was my pleasure to help that happen. MineralMan Mar 2021 #38
Thankfully my own HOA is not too bad. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2021 #49
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