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hunter

(38,310 posts)
22. Who gets the greater benefit from our society?
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 12:59 PM
Mar 2021

The people who work multiple crappy jobs and are barely getting by...

... or someone who owns multiple houses in beautiful places, drives fancy cars, and travels the world first class?

Tax rates SHOULD be steeply progressive, with the very wealthy paying most of them, the affluent paying their fair share, and those barely getting by paying nothing.

Jobs that don't pay a comfortable living wage simply shouldn't exist.

Those who are unemployed or unemployable should receive a basic income, safe comfortable housing, appropriate medical care, and a basic income.

Creating jobs is a trivial problem when taxation is progressive and government can create money.

Healthy people want to work, they want to make their communities a better place. They don't need the threat of starvation, homelessness, and death by treatable medical conditions hanging over their heads as any kind of "punishment" for not working.

Punitive, puritanical societies don't work except for those at the very top seeking and holding vast power and wealth.

Progressive taxation and strong social safety nets are essential to the stability of any free market.

Otherwise society collapses into some version of stagnant feudalism or worse.


I hate that "rich pay more taxes" BS. [View all] newdayneeded Mar 2021 OP
Good analogy. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #1
Higher taxes on the rich is necessary for a capitalistic democracy to survive Mysterian Mar 2021 #2
the rich use more government than we mortals rampartc Mar 2021 #3
Mark's Gospel in Bible says something about this. mwooldri Mar 2021 #4
Beat me to it--the widow's mite Maeve Mar 2021 #12
Effective corporate tax rate over time.. albacore Mar 2021 #5
...and richest families. albacore Mar 2021 #6
You are incorrect elias7 Mar 2021 #7
But you forgot the loopholes newdayneeded Mar 2021 #8
If we're talking about the Uber rich, yes, they have their nefarious ways elias7 Mar 2021 #13
But (I'm sorry I have no link) about 20% don't even pay taxes & IRS is too weak to collect it. rickyhall Mar 2021 #9
That sounds a bit high to me, but you could be right. elias7 Mar 2021 #15
if you are talking only federal income tax, around 43% of the US pays no net Celerity Mar 2021 #19
I guess you know better than Warren Buffet dpibel Mar 2021 #14
I don't know better than him. elias7 Mar 2021 #17
One needs to factor in all taxes, not just the federal income tax. PETRUS Mar 2021 #16
Yes, but the OP said "NOWHERE near what we pay in %", which the graph dispels elias7 Mar 2021 #20
You wrote: "The more money you make, the more you pay percentage-wise." PETRUS Mar 2021 #21
He also thinks a teacher and firefighter make 250k n/t hibbing Mar 2021 #10
That sounds about right - combined RainCaster Mar 2021 #18
You might want to change the placement of your close-parenthesis (n/t) MissMillie Mar 2021 #11
Who gets the greater benefit from our society? hunter Mar 2021 #22
The rich receive a huge UBI from low taxes. Baked Potato Mar 2021 #23
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