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LisaL

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38. No, my assertion is that you are wrong based on available evidence.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:57 AM
Mar 2021

There is no increase in infection risk after the first dose. Yet you insist on trying to claim otherwise.

Delete uponit7771 Mar 2021 #1
The post you linked to says the exact opposite. Mariana Mar 2021 #22
Exactly. LisaL Mar 2021 #27
Thx, fixing post uponit7771 Mar 2021 #35
Here is a report of hospitalization of a fully vaccinated person - i think it's a good question womanofthehills Mar 2021 #56
That sounds almost Sgent Mar 2021 #59
That's what I think. Mariana Mar 2021 #68
The poster I responded to did not ask a question. Mariana Mar 2021 #67
As already has been pointed out to you, you are completely mischaracterizing LisaL Mar 2021 #28
Thx, post fixed uponit7771 Mar 2021 #37
A DU thread about Michigan's latest surge touches on this. Eugene Mar 2021 #2
I'm aware of the Michigan article Shermann Mar 2021 #3
Partially vaccinated INCLUDES the period you are concerned about. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #40
Insufficient data, see post #5 nt Shermann Mar 2021 #41
Then I'll just fall back on the reason that the question isn't being asked Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #42
That's helpful, thanks Shermann Mar 2021 #44
Some scientists have said that because the spike protein is so specific it dominates your natural womanofthehills Mar 2021 #57
Always a good idea to STFH if you can Shermann Mar 2021 #69
No, the data does not suggest this DenaliDemocrat Mar 2021 #4
It doesn't, nor does it rule it out in a statistically significant way Shermann Mar 2021 #5
Those infections were not increased in vaccine group compared to placebo group. LisaL Mar 2021 #9
Which completely nullified your argument DenaliDemocrat Mar 2021 #49
Generally True ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #53
The 40,000 number is misleading Shermann Mar 2021 #64
Agreed! ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #70
You not understanding how something works... FBaggins Mar 2021 #6
My statement was "seems plausible" Shermann Mar 2021 #10
What seems plausible to you doesn't actually make it plausible. LisaL Mar 2021 #11
And my response was that it does not, in fact, seem plausible FBaggins Mar 2021 #33
To expand upon this.... DenaliDemocrat Mar 2021 #50
So in the short term the vaccine can suppress the mechanism of the virus in a different way? Shermann Mar 2021 #52
Here DenaliDemocrat Mar 2021 #60
The paper covers infections occurring 12-37 days after the first dose Shermann Mar 2021 #63
The paper clearly shows a reduction of viral load DenaliDemocrat Mar 2021 #65
Direct opposition? Not really, there is a huge 11 day hole in this rebuttal of yours Shermann Mar 2021 #66
Your immune system, esp. soreness of your arm, is also responding to the adjuvants in the vaccine womanofthehills Mar 2021 #61
Your initial premise that media didn't "ask the question" was wrong Hortensis Mar 2021 #45
I see Shermann Mar 2021 #55
Never before have we been vaccinating so many people during a pandemic womanofthehills Mar 2021 #58
That isn't really true... but also isn't relevant FBaggins Mar 2021 #62
From everything I've seen, read and heard... secondwind Mar 2021 #7
Why would anyone ask this question? LisaL Mar 2021 #8
I rejected the soundness of that assertion in post 5 nt Shermann Mar 2021 #12
Because you are refusing to accept what is already available evidence. LisaL Mar 2021 #26
Anecdotal at best, but, I was looking at the curves... Hugin Mar 2021 #13
Interesting, thanks Shermann Mar 2021 #14
What I'm finding interesting are the reports the vaccinations may help... Hugin Mar 2021 #43
There are no antibodies to covid in those who haven't been exposed to it. LisaL Mar 2021 #15
Did you miss where I said, "ALWAYS BETTER THAN NOTHING"? Hugin Mar 2021 #17
I don't know what curves you looked at. LisaL Mar 2021 #18
This is a good question. hamsterjill Mar 2021 #16
I guess I should state I'm not an anti-vaxxer? Shermann Mar 2021 #19
It's not an interesting question DenaliDemocrat Mar 2021 #51
Here's an actual reader question posted on CNN: Shermann Mar 2021 #54
Because there is no need to ask something that makes no sense. LisaL Mar 2021 #20
So your assertion is that the protection goes straight up immediately following the first shot? Shermann Mar 2021 #21
Your question makes sense to me. hamsterjill Mar 2021 #24
The question has already been answered during clinical trials. LisaL Mar 2021 #29
What? There's not a trace of a hint of that in LisaL's post. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #32
If there's a question, let it be asked. hamsterjill Mar 2021 #23
If I told you that I am an expert, you'd really have no way to verify it, would you? LisaL Mar 2021 #30
So your assertion stands because if you supported it, the support couldn't be verified? Shermann Mar 2021 #36
No, my assertion is that you are wrong based on available evidence. LisaL Mar 2021 #38
No, but I think you've answered my question. hamsterjill Mar 2021 #47
And I don't want to be "shit out of luck". hamsterjill Mar 2021 #25
It's like you're trying to find any little wedge, lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #31
Improbable Little Wedges Shermann Mar 2021 #34
Mask wearing was never an improbable wedge, except to Trumpers. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #39
Actually, your question is not asked because vaccines actually stimulate immunity generally andym Mar 2021 #46
Good enough, thanks! nt Shermann Mar 2021 #48
Here's an anecdotal example FakeNoose Mar 2021 #71
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