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Reply to Phoenix61 (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 05:31 PM

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The system is not reformable. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #1

Systems change all the time. Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #2

When a system is built on white supremacy to uphold the white supremacy around it, abolition WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #4

So we get rid of law enforcement? nt Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #5

Yes. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #7

And do what? nt Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #8

About what? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #10

Seriously? You said we should get rid of law enforcement. Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #11

Because law enforcement does little to deter those kind of crimes, we have to look at why they WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #14

Okay, but ShazzieB Apr 2021 #18

"But getting rid of it entirely is not the answer." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #22

If it isn't self evident why a country without any law enforcement would be a chaotic mess, ShazzieB Apr 2021 #25

Law enforcement is not what keeps me from chaos. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #29

Nonsense. Without some form of law enforcement, wnylib Apr 2021 #27

Is law enforcement's mission to provide vengeance? They certainly provide some form of gang- WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #30

Just the opposite. Part of their wnylib Apr 2021 #34

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The cops show up after those things happen. gldstwmn Apr 2021 #41

I've never said law enforcement was a deterrent. Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #43

We kind of saw what happens... TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #9

Simply getting rid of the cops isn't how to build a world without cops. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #12

Good luck with that. whathehell Apr 2021 #19

Don't I know it. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #20

..Then why do you imagine that would change? whathehell Apr 2021 #24

Because there are a lot of things we haven't tried that could work. We have to keep trying. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #28

Keep your eye on Maryland where the legislature overrode a veto and made a great first . . . . . Stinky The Clown Apr 2021 #3

The only thing in that article I see directly attempting to end cop violence is the end of no-knock WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #6

And it seems to be, with body cams, they have to be turned ON to do any good. calimary Apr 2021 #46

Yes it is, just do what the US military MPs do. Here's a list uponit7771 Apr 2021 #15

I'd like to add a 5th point. Gore1FL Apr 2021 #21

Yep that should be against the law period. That's predatory uponit7771 Apr 2021 #40

This is another excellent idea. calimary Apr 2021 #48

Best post I've seen on this subject because you have provided a working alterntive. intheflow Apr 2021 #38

..👍🏼 uponit7771 Apr 2021 #39

I saw on Twitter last night that the notice gldstwmn Apr 2021 #42

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #44

VERY good ideas! calimary Apr 2021 #47

Okay. Done. Stinky The Clown Apr 2021 #13

The thin blue line and police unions. underpants Apr 2021 #16

Maybe if we paid them to stay home /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #17

I watch a lot of British detective cop shows and they always call out the "armed response teams" if Pepsidog Apr 2021 #23

The warrent was for a misdemeanor gun charge, not a traffic warrent dflprincess Apr 2021 #31

Thanks for the correction. Pepsidog Apr 2021 #36

Makes me wonder how the cops handled the original gun charge wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #45

More Americans have guns than the British IronLionZion Apr 2021 #37

Good discussion. I think the US being AWASH with weapons changes the whole picture. Add Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #26

Calls for "police reform" will have as much impact as . . . AverageOldGuy Apr 2021 #32

Glenn Kirschner, on his "Justice Matters" podcast, soldierant Apr 2021 #33