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The system is not reformable. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #1
Systems change all the time. Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #2
When a system is built on white supremacy to uphold the white supremacy around it, abolition WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #4
So we get rid of law enforcement? nt Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #5
Yes. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #7
And do what? nt Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #8
About what? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #10
Seriously? You said we should get rid of law enforcement. Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #11
Because law enforcement does little to deter those kind of crimes, we have to look at why they WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #14
Okay, but ShazzieB Apr 2021 #18
"But getting rid of it entirely is not the answer." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #22
If it isn't self evident why a country without any law enforcement would be a chaotic mess, ShazzieB Apr 2021 #25
Law enforcement is not what keeps me from chaos. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #29
Nonsense. Without some form of law enforcement, wnylib Apr 2021 #27
Is law enforcement's mission to provide vengeance? They certainly provide some form of gang- WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #30
Just the opposite. Part of their wnylib Apr 2021 #34
. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #35
The cops show up after those things happen. gldstwmn Apr 2021 #41
I've never said law enforcement was a deterrent. Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #43
We kind of saw what happens... TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #9
Simply getting rid of the cops isn't how to build a world without cops. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #12
Good luck with that. whathehell Apr 2021 #19
Don't I know it. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #20
..Then why do you imagine that would change? whathehell Apr 2021 #24
Because there are a lot of things we haven't tried that could work. We have to keep trying. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #28
Keep your eye on Maryland where the legislature overrode a veto and made a great first . . . . . Stinky The Clown Apr 2021 #3
The only thing in that article I see directly attempting to end cop violence is the end of no-knock WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #6
And it seems to be, with body cams, they have to be turned ON to do any good. calimary Apr 2021 #46
Yes it is, just do what the US military MPs do. Here's a list uponit7771 Apr 2021 #15
I'd like to add a 5th point. Gore1FL Apr 2021 #21
Yep that should be against the law period. That's predatory uponit7771 Apr 2021 #40
This is another excellent idea. calimary Apr 2021 #48
Best post I've seen on this subject because you have provided a working alterntive. intheflow Apr 2021 #38
..👍🏼 uponit7771 Apr 2021 #39
I saw on Twitter last night that the notice gldstwmn Apr 2021 #42
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #44
VERY good ideas! calimary Apr 2021 #47
Okay. Done. Stinky The Clown Apr 2021 #13
The thin blue line and police unions. underpants Apr 2021 #16
Maybe if we paid them to stay home /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #17
I watch a lot of British detective cop shows and they always call out the "armed response teams" if Pepsidog Apr 2021 #23
The warrent was for a misdemeanor gun charge, not a traffic warrent dflprincess Apr 2021 #31
Thanks for the correction. Pepsidog Apr 2021 #36
Makes me wonder how the cops handled the original gun charge wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #45
More Americans have guns than the British IronLionZion Apr 2021 #37
Good discussion. I think the US being AWASH with weapons changes the whole picture. Add Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #26
Calls for "police reform" will have as much impact as . . . AverageOldGuy Apr 2021 #32
Glenn Kirschner, on his "Justice Matters" podcast, soldierant Apr 2021 #33
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