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In reply to the discussion: MN Governor: 'Stop Pretending' We Can't Do Anything to Stop This [View all] Part of their responsibility is to prevent vengence, or vigilante type justice.
Then why are they killing people over and over again? Over expired tabs, a counterfeit bill, loose cigarettes? Because cops provide vigilante justice for capital, not people.
But if you believe so strongly in it, why not try your own experiment with it?
I have. In the past couple years -- since I've learned about abolition -- in instances where I might have otherwise called the police, I've worked to find ways to not do so. It's not easy! But so far, it's worked for me.
It sounds to me like you could be either too naive to deal with the realities of human nature or just enjoy trolling people.
Sorry to hear I come across that way. I disagree about your assessment of human nature, though. As humans, we tend to empathize and want to help each other. "Survival of the fittest" for humans means survival of those who can collaborate and provide mutual aid to each other. As humans, we have to learn to hurt each other, and we hurt each other when our needs aren't met. If we can break the cycle of learning how to hurt, we can move toward a world without police.
Have a nice day.
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When a system is built on white supremacy to uphold the white supremacy around it, abolition
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2021
#4
Because law enforcement does little to deter those kind of crimes, we have to look at why they
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2021
#14
If it isn't self evident why a country without any law enforcement would be a chaotic mess,
ShazzieB
Apr 2021
#25
Is law enforcement's mission to provide vengeance? They certainly provide some form of gang-
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2021
#30
Because there are a lot of things we haven't tried that could work. We have to keep trying.
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2021
#28
Keep your eye on Maryland where the legislature overrode a veto and made a great first . . . . .
Stinky The Clown
Apr 2021
#3
The only thing in that article I see directly attempting to end cop violence is the end of no-knock
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2021
#6
Best post I've seen on this subject because you have provided a working alterntive.
intheflow
Apr 2021
#38
I watch a lot of British detective cop shows and they always call out the "armed response teams" if
Pepsidog
Apr 2021
#23
Good discussion. I think the US being AWASH with weapons changes the whole picture. Add
Evolve Dammit
Apr 2021
#26