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tritsofme

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28. HR1 is not a panacea, and it realistically has no path forward in the Senate.

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #27)

Tue Apr 13, 2021, 12:41 AM

Apr 2021

You can be sure the Democratic leaders you mentioned are prepared to fight and win elections in that environment, your defeatism notwithstanding.

No one is arguing for “keeping powder dry,” Schumer simply lacks the power to carry out the threats you demand.

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My concrete suggestion on how to handle Manchin & Sinema, and pass jobs bill and voting rights: [View all] Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 OP

Are you not worried that the actions you call for would cause either or both Sibelius Fan Apr 2021 #1

Not at all- unless they plan to retire in 2024, they won't switch parties. Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #3

If such Senators have the time and inclination to repeatedly call for bi-partisan legislating, then Ninga Apr 2021 #4

I like the idea about crud Apr 2021 #2

Good ideas! PortTack Apr 2021 #5

Unfortunately - this misunderstands where the pressure is FBaggins Apr 2021 #6

Manchin has the leverage to pass or block the bills, but Schumer controls the consequences. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #7

No he doesn't FBaggins Apr 2021 #8

But you're assuming one or both will switch parties - I don't. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #10

Of course they will FBaggins Apr 2021 #11

lol, it occurred to me that a new organizing resolution would be required to strip Manchin tritsofme Apr 2021 #16

Indeed... the position of Senate Majority Leader isn't even in the Constitution FBaggins Apr 2021 #24

Brava, this is excellent - new thinking could solve this. lark Apr 2021 #9

Your approach fails... brooklynite Apr 2021 #12

Says Rev. Barber and the Poor People's Campaign, and Move On Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #13

What advocacy groups promise says nothing about what Manchin/Sinema's voters will do brooklynite Apr 2021 #14

It is incredibly silly to think you could impose such sanctions on Manchin tritsofme Apr 2021 #15

So what ideas do you have Elessar Zappa Apr 2021 #17

Elect more Democratic senators, and make him irrelevant. tritsofme Apr 2021 #19

Electing more Democratic senators is a naive fantasy without HR1. Not Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #25

I don't accept that premise. Regardless, it does not make your proposal any less ridiculous. tritsofme Apr 2021 #26

Without HR1, Warnock loses his seat in 2022, guaranteed Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #27

HR1 is not a panacea, and it realistically has no path forward in the Senate. tritsofme Apr 2021 #28

Good ideas. Elessar Zappa Apr 2021 #18

wouldn't work. WarGamer Apr 2021 #20

We'd better make sure that Justice Breyer retires first. Crunchy Frog Apr 2021 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Apr 2021 #22

IMO you have a better future as a fantasy fiction writer onenote Apr 2021 #23