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187. she's just a target for some
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 03:59 PM
Apr 2021

...people who don't really care what she says, just as long as they can advantage their personal politics from mentioning her name and blaming her for something or the other.

I think the effort is pathetic, and much worse politics than anything associated with that slogan. The slogan advocates for safe communities, free from an unnecessary glut of abusive police forces. Opponents of the slogan are using it for petty political attacks and recrimination.

I stand with those looking to reform the police, not with those more concerned with semantics than with the actul substance of BLM's and AOC's advocacy.

And everyone can see for themselves that her statements were part and parcel of her office and advocacy, not some petty campaign.

Bring in the new blood Yorkie Mom Apr 2021 #1
Biden is president and he wouldn't be if it wasn't for Rep. Clayburn... brush Apr 2021 #6
Oooof greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #2
So, you think "identity issues" are being driven by the working class? Yorkie Mom Apr 2021 #5
I worked with many minorities. Elessar Zappa Apr 2021 #9
Thanks! Do you think they are driving the identity issues? Yorkie Mom Apr 2021 #11
Yes, no doubt. BLM isn't driven by upper class white people and neither are most of the ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #29
You are quite right, Carveille needs to woke up. PurgedVoter Apr 2021 #166
We wouldn't have so many problems if upper class white people cared about these issues AZProgressive Apr 2021 #92
Do I think working class black women recognize that they face multiple forms of discrimination greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #12
That wasn't the question at all... Yorkie Mom Apr 2021 #20
That was absolutely the question greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #22
So glad you can jump into my mind and read it. Yorkie Mom Apr 2021 #27
Ten bucks says you fail to see the irony in your having expressed that... LanternWaste Apr 2021 #182
But you call them Black, not "people of color", or "women of color" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2021 #62
As a 'person of color', I've never met another one in RL that referred to themselves like that. Nexus2 Apr 2021 #71
Where is "RL?" lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #169
Its short for Real Life, offline reality [nt] Nexus2 Apr 2021 #183
Oh, I had forgotten about that. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #186
THIS is what people like Carville mean when they sneer at "identity politics" Withywindle Apr 2021 #165
I think "identity issues" are being driven by people of various identities. Withywindle Apr 2021 #162
There is a difference between "driving" and identifying. Caliman73 Apr 2021 #175
+10000000000000000 Celerity Apr 2021 #16
Policies that enjoy majority approval across the board gratuitous Apr 2021 #3
Says a man who hasn't been relevant in 30 years. Doremus Apr 2021 #4
Amen. Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #70
This. Why are we still listening to this guy? Withywindle Apr 2021 #163
Noise. stillcool Apr 2021 #7
Huh, sounds just like the kind of shit Republicans say. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #8
Lizard man should go away. Maybe hang out with Lizard Wife more. NT. Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #10
OK for real, you made me laugh out loud SoonerPride Apr 2021 #14
+1. A Clearing Apr 2021 #86
Agree... Mike Nelson Apr 2021 #13
DTP wasn't the onus of loss of seats bad campaigning was. We can fool ourserlves into thinking uponit7771 Apr 2021 #31
Sorry you couldn't be more wrong..DTP killed our side.. caber09 Apr 2021 #78
Post removed Post removed Apr 2021 #87
What are you talking about? Biden was not for DTP... caber09 Apr 2021 #94
I care about fixing problems in policing AZProgressive Apr 2021 #101
Defunding the police isn't fixing policing, it's political suicide caber09 Apr 2021 #111
Biden and Democrats won the district AZProgressive Apr 2021 #114
Seems some of those cities are now re-funding the police caber09 Apr 2021 #119
DU is for supporters of the Democratic Party. "I don't care if Democrats win or lose anymore"? betsuni Apr 2021 #99
Yeah I was thinking samething lol caber09 Apr 2021 #100
Guess it's too much to ask to have a place free of Democrat-bashing. betsuni Apr 2021 #106
I voted for Biden to remove Trump AZProgressive Apr 2021 #102
This a forum for supporters of Democrats. betsuni Apr 2021 #104
I support Democrats that support defund the police AZProgressive Apr 2021 #105
What? betsuni Apr 2021 #107
A lot of Bernie supporters complained about identity politics AZProgressive Apr 2021 #109
What? That's wrong. betsuni Apr 2021 #154
"Defund the Police" is a Losing Slogan! Especially Cha Apr 2021 #156
So? It doesn't matter why.. we Got Cha Apr 2021 #155
YES! We are the party of identity politics. We identify with honest, working men and women who joetheman Apr 2021 #15
However poorly made, there are points in what Carville is saying dutch777 Apr 2021 #17
No, what dragged down the Dems wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #23
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 OMG This !!! I've been trying to say this with too many words for months. Bad uponit7771 Apr 2021 #32
Exactly wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #38
OP Worthy 👉🏾 "Voters don't vote for scared Democrats. Voters vote for strong Democrats." uponit7771 Apr 2021 #41
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2021 #67
Stacey Abrams gets credit for the Georgia success. She nixes dtp nt oasis Apr 2021 #191
+1 betsuni Apr 2021 #199
+1 caber09 Apr 2021 #205
Yeah, if we followed this advice,we would have lost more seats IMHO. Most voters Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #46
Dems backtracked with the uniform "reform the police" spiel wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #59
Really, well 'defund the police' weakens our ability to win elections. And the GOP ran many add on Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #65
The Republicans will say we'll defund the police wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #75
Nutjob . eom Xoan Apr 2021 #18
Except WHITT Apr 2021 #19
Well, who started the "defund the police?" Republicans running for office in the last election demosincebirth Apr 2021 #24
Also liberals who didn't like the radical "abolish the police" message. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #30
There wasn't ONE PERSON on the left who started that slogan it was the lack of national level attack uponit7771 Apr 2021 #33
It started during protests that got a little out of hand and cops started cracking heads demosincebirth Apr 2021 #54
Some videos I saw police crack heads with peaceful protestors uponit7771 Apr 2021 #61
Peaceful demonstrations that extend into the nite bring out demosincebirth Apr 2021 #69
Well I observed the police... tonedevil Apr 2021 #72
Please stop AOC literally said dtp means dtp right before election caber09 Apr 2021 #80
Yes she did: "Defund the police means defund the police." betsuni Apr 2021 #84
AOC started the slogan?!?! Really?!?! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #91
Are you serious? "Dtp means dtp" caber09 Apr 2021 #95
AOC Sgent Apr 2021 #40
Asked, "What does an America with defunded police look like to you?" Ocasio-Cortez responded, "It Celerity Apr 2021 #56
THIIISSSSSS Withywindle Apr 2021 #164
That is untrue...prominent Democrats had defund the police on their websites and this Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #47
Like who?! There was no dtp platform from democrats at best it was sympathizing with the uponit7771 Apr 2021 #60
Google is your friend... I will not post it...as the lawmakers have removed this. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #64
Not from democrats running as a platform it wont, its false to claim that dems made DTP a part of uponit7771 Apr 2021 #66
Again please stop lying AOC etc literally campaigned on it caber09 Apr 2021 #81
AOC is the DNC platform or are you just responding to my pay and not reading them? uponit7771 Apr 2021 #90
She campaigned on it, along with many others.. caber09 Apr 2021 #96
Good, we're agreeing it was not on the platform and "acting" is subjective at best ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #108
Yes a slogan cost us, no matter what you keep saying.. caber09 Apr 2021 #110
FACT NOT IN DISPUTE: Dems *LACK OF RESPONSE* to a slogan that wasn't part of our platform ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #115
"Dtp means dtp" political suicide and homicide to dem candidates caber09 Apr 2021 #117
Question: Is the whole kGQP a bunch of child trafficking assholes? If no then BINGO. The kGQP uponit7771 Apr 2021 #121
Changing the subject attempt, interesting... caber09 Apr 2021 #122
Great, seeing most people here know its a sentiment and not an action like most Americans (poll) uponit7771 Apr 2021 #123
Thanks for actually proving my point, appreciate it.. caber09 Apr 2021 #124
+1 betsuni Apr 2021 #125
This poster thinks dtp resonated well in MO 6 with R-Sam Graves as their rep?? Lol caber09 Apr 2021 #134
Huge lol. betsuni Apr 2021 #137
67%+ voted R Graves but it resonates with posters district lmao caber09 Apr 2021 #141
I'm from nyc and now this poster asked if I'm from the USA lol geez pure comedy gold caber09 Apr 2021 #147
Yes. betsuni Apr 2021 #149
Neither of us said it was a winning slogan. My claim is 1. it wasn't part of the DNC platform ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #126
I'll give you one bonus chance.. caber09 Apr 2021 #127
Dis 6 MO and it resonated great imho. This is the 3RD TIME I've answered that question !! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #128
What state? I missed where you answered it caber09 Apr 2021 #129
MO means Missouri and I answered it in the first line the first time you asked. What about my uponit7771 Apr 2021 #131
Ok district 6 MO I didn't see the MO caber09 Apr 2021 #130
The district is HEAVILY GM'd so the part I live in fell in line with the rest of the country where uponit7771 Apr 2021 #133
So it doesn't resonate in your district...you lied caber09 Apr 2021 #135
Typical of LPC, you ran from the question I asked 4 times and the district is GM'd so it only matter uponit7771 Apr 2021 #138
You think defund resonates well your rep district R- Sam Graves? caber09 Apr 2021 #132
ABSOLUTELY !! Especially were I live and in ST Louis but understand the district was heavily uponit7771 Apr 2021 #136
67%+ voted R in your district caber09 Apr 2021 #139
Do you understand what gerrymandered means?! and you didn't answer the question. CAN ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #140
Already answered your question hope they do... caber09 Apr 2021 #142
Thank you, hope doesn't cut it. Either we can or can't and right now we ca NOT make Gaetz... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #144
You lied about it resonating in your area when it's the exact opposite. caber09 Apr 2021 #143
Do you understand urban and suburban areas in a district? Are you from the US? tia uponit7771 Apr 2021 #145
NYC born and bred..so yes I understand urban and suburban caber09 Apr 2021 #146
Then you understand in mostly black areas DTP was popular as a sentiment, the polling even... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #148
Come on Many dems did including bush and AOC caber09 Apr 2021 #79
Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman won their primaries on this issue AZProgressive Apr 2021 #88
They won in blue districts that you or I could win, come on man caber09 Apr 2021 #97
Blue district Democrats have every right to support local issues that matter to them AZProgressive Apr 2021 #103
Blue district dem voters dont support defund the police in caber09 Apr 2021 #112
I never saw New York City or the state of New York AZProgressive Apr 2021 #113
OFFS so who is your rep? How's dtp in your own district? caber09 Apr 2021 #116
If you don't have a problem with "stop and frisk" that tells me everything I need to know AZProgressive Apr 2021 #118
Who said I was for stop and frisk? Lmao caber09 Apr 2021 #120
Their Districts are Deep BLUE! We're Cha Apr 2021 #158
He kind of has a point, look at what happened after Obama Care, or the ACA...republicans used a SWBTATTReg Apr 2021 #21
He does have a point, and a very good one. demosincebirth Apr 2021 #26
He does. When I first heard Gil Garcetti use "defund the police" I cringed. Dream Girl Apr 2021 #37
Democrats have alway been very good at shooting them selves demosincebirth Apr 2021 #55
ACA is perfect example of no national level attack allowing the stupid to take root. They can't ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #34
The Democrats lost in 2010 because of message voting ...those on our side who were angry about Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #48
Absolutely you're right. We need a coordinated and ongoing messaging to aggressively SWBTATTReg Apr 2021 #52
Hear, hear misanthrope Apr 2021 #58
how can an "authority" be wrong so often? bullimiami Apr 2021 #25
The Real Reason WHITT Apr 2021 #28
Doubtful unfortunately DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2021 #36
Well WHITT Apr 2021 #44
True however ibegurpard Apr 2021 #50
Add to that the fact that every MAGAT with a pulse crawled out of their holes to Bettie Apr 2021 #51
James, you're out of touch. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #35
I really wish people would use the same amount of energy devoted to social issues... WarGamer Apr 2021 #39
Before the wet brain I used to really like JC Runningdawg Apr 2021 #42
Yeah, I remember the "Cocktail Party" commercial TexasBushwhacker Apr 2021 #157
How much of that is actually Democrats (or even "the English Faculty at Amherst") and how much is... JHB Apr 2021 #43
2022 may be a repeat of 1994 and 2010 Klaralven Apr 2021 #45
Or it could be 2002 ...which is what I hope for where the President's party made gains.. It all Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #49
i hope not Demovictory9 Apr 2021 #53
All 3 word slogans seem to hurt Democrats liberalmediaaddict Apr 2021 #57
His concern is noted. nt Autumn Apr 2021 #63
James Carville: "I've never heard anybody use the word hegemony." Duncan Grant Apr 2021 #68
Stuff like this really frustrates me Mad_Machine76 Apr 2021 #73
It's really bizarre to put "person of color" and "defund the police" in the same category fishwax Apr 2021 #74
no one is pushing 'defund police' bigtree Apr 2021 #76
Another one, please stop AOC etc literally ran on dtp and it dragged dems down caber09 Apr 2021 #82
that's literally a lie. bigtree Apr 2021 #83
She said "Defund the police means defund the police." betsuni Apr 2021 #85
Yes, that's an exact quote. George II Apr 2021 #152
poster claimed she 'literally ran on defund police bigtree Apr 2021 #168
She did. AOC "is among the proponents of defunding the police departments and reinvesting betsuni Apr 2021 #170
her statement was specifically about removing police from schools bigtree Apr 2021 #178
"Defunding police" is still on her campaign website. betsuni Apr 2021 #184
Unbelievable... caber09 Apr 2021 #185
she made a couple of statements, she didn't 'go around repeating it' bigtree Apr 2021 #188
she's just a target for some bigtree Apr 2021 #187
Ok let's try this with you...what district are you in? Did dtp resonate in your district? caber09 Apr 2021 #189
nope bigtree Apr 2021 #192
Yep nothing to say because you've been proven wrong, understood caber09 Apr 2021 #196
+1 betsuni Apr 2021 #197
another one of your bad takes on this thread bigtree Apr 2021 #203
No it's not "dtp means dtp" is what she pushed nationwide as well caber09 Apr 2021 #98
you didn't post a quote because there wasn't one bigtree Apr 2021 #167
In response to DeBlasio's budget cuts, she said "This is not a victory. The fight to defund betsuni Apr 2021 #171
she didn't base any campaign on that bigtree Apr 2021 #172
Can't believe this post got alerted on Sympthsical Apr 2021 #173
Here she is on Good Morning America talking about her support of defund the police. betsuni Apr 2021 #176
that's not campaigning bigtree Apr 2021 #177
Hmmm... caber09 Apr 2021 #190
meh. bigtree Apr 2021 #193
Meh? Yep nothing to say bec it contradicts what you've been saying caber09 Apr 2021 #195
The words I'm saying don't mean what the words mean! betsuni Apr 2021 #194
answering a question in an interview is not a campaign bigtree Apr 2021 #204
She has constantly pushed Defunding the Police, not sure what you arent getting, or refusing to get caber09 Apr 2021 #206
a couple instances, only two cited on this thread bigtree Apr 2021 #207
"A handful of times" ?? she is one of the proponents of defunding the police...constantly pushing caber09 Apr 2021 #208
all of those links point to only TWO instances where she used the word 'defund' bigtree Apr 2021 #209
What dont you understand... caber09 Apr 2021 #210
any article that states that is wrong bigtree Apr 2021 #211
Thanks for the good laugh..."any article that states that is wrong" caber09 Apr 2021 #212
I live in a suburb which does not have an oppressive police presence bigtree Apr 2021 #216
So you are saying Biden, Obama, Clyburn and most dems are wrong and you are right? caber09 Apr 2021 #223
you're now entirely debating the inside of your own head bigtree Apr 2021 #225
Yep no comeback whatsoever...get out of your utopia look around, you are wrong caber09 Apr 2021 #227
non sequiturs aren't designed for comebacks bigtree Apr 2021 #229
I lulz'd KG Apr 2021 #77
It is interesting he is saying this when he was dead set against Bernie Sanders AZProgressive Apr 2021 #89
"the Third Way was known for being centrist or right wing on economic issues" betsuni Apr 2021 #93
Guess I'm not going to get an explanation. Insults only. betsuni Apr 2021 #151
We can win elections if we think and act wisely. nt oasis Apr 2021 #150
Well put. DFW Apr 2021 #153
"He who knows, and knows that he knows.....etc.. Carville's oasis Apr 2021 #160
I first met him at a meeting of Texas Democrats DFW Apr 2021 #161
James Carville worried he's set to lose TxGuitar Apr 2021 #159
Given some of the responses in the thread he's probably right. BannonsLiver Apr 2021 #174
One boomer to another: OK, Boomer. n/t. NNadir Apr 2021 #179
he is actually technically too old to even be a boomer Celerity Apr 2021 #198
Thanks for that locution. NNadir Apr 2021 #200
"under the influence of his wife, became one" betsuni Apr 2021 #201
I concede there is a difference between obvious and subtle. NNadir Apr 2021 #202
no one ever worries about repukes losing over fascist issues Skittles Apr 2021 #180
This is the kind of thinking that has hamstrung the Democratic party Mysterian Apr 2021 #181
That dude is always worried. CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #213
If Biden had backed DTP, Trump would still be president. PERIOD. oasis Apr 2021 #214
+1000000 caber09 Apr 2021 #215
if Biden had wings and wheels... bigtree Apr 2021 #217
Please come back to reality caber09 Apr 2021 #218
please give it a rest bigtree Apr 2021 #221
Great comeback, you already proved being full of it bec your district is not for defunding police caber09 Apr 2021 #224
please stop. bigtree Apr 2021 #226
Sad, you are begging, I accept your unconditional surrender, enjoy your safe suburb caber09 Apr 2021 #228
take care of yourself bigtree Apr 2021 #230
Oh by the way Rs got 200k more votes in nyc bec of dtp.. caber09 Apr 2021 #231
"Air Force One" will do for now. Thank you. oasis Apr 2021 #219
ha! bigtree Apr 2021 #222
I doubt the English faculty at Amherst iemanja Apr 2021 #220
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