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In reply to the discussion: Are we really going to sit here and pretend there's no alternative to police gunning down teenager [View all]ShazzieB
(19,395 posts)5. I am SO sick of this shit. 🤬
"Its like swaths of the US have been gaslit into believing that lethal force is the correct response to just about anything."
I think it's more like there are way too many cops in the US who seem to operate on the assumption that ALL poc, regardless of age or other physical characteristics, are raging, murderous hellbeasts who are always up to no good and can only be controlled by the use of total, full on lethal force.
It's disgusting and infuriating nd ludicrous, and it has GOT to stop. Until and unless it does, black people will not be able to safely walk the streets of this country.
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Are we really going to sit here and pretend there's no alternative to police gunning down teenager [View all]
Soph0571
Apr 2021
OP
K&R, Americans are conditioned to believe Americans are so bad that we need to be gunned down
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#1
+1, it seems in the UK the police care about the relationship the LEOs have with the communities
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#4
"perception" of threat? Watch the video; the girl is about to stab another person.
oldsoftie
Apr 2021
#11
The cop immediately stated that she tried to stab the other girl, and was correct in that
greenjar_01
Apr 2021
#35
Wasn't the call about a person armed with a knife/possible attempted stabbing? [nt]
Nexus2
Apr 2021
#109
She was on the other girl. She would have stabbed her before he could pull and taser her.
marie999
Apr 2021
#87
Don Lemon and other CNN shows had a series of experts on that said a Taser was highly unlikely
Celerity
Apr 2021
#139
A Taser dart doesnt deploy nearly as fast as a bullet. The likely result is a stabbed girl.
oldsoftie
Apr 2021
#114
Bullets are much, much faster and more accurate. Tasers are not accurate beyond about 10 feet. n/t
pnwmom
Apr 2021
#135
... and greater lethal force than an adequate stopping power of a taser. Like Maddow said ...
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#141
She could've been stopped with a taser, she's 15 and knowing she could've been stopped with
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#77
Assuming the officer had a taser, a taser can't shoot its target nearly as quickly as a gun can.
pnwmom
Apr 2021
#136
Yes a taser can be discharged just as quickly as a gun the projectiles aren't as fast and ...
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#140
+1, I just read about that the other cops did not pull out a gun and get busy
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#122
Is it because half the country belives a gun is the answer to any and all
sinkingfeeling
Apr 2021
#7
Bullshit. The girl was in the process of STABBING someone. There's ZERO time for anything else.
oldsoftie
Apr 2021
#10
Since people think it is important to bring up what a Chicago 13-year-old
AZProgressive
Apr 2021
#12
Thanks. Those of us who presume to overcome few challenges fulfilling our desires cannot know.
jaxexpat
Apr 2021
#58
Because a frightened teenager is supposed to know the exact correct way to call for help
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#29
But but but but... she wasn't robotically rational in a high-stress, fight-for-flight situation!
Act_of_Reparation
Apr 2021
#100
Yup. The guys with the gun can go all Barney Fife because they're scared
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#101
But there is also a Black girl (the one in pink) who might be still alive today
pnwmom
Apr 2021
#138
What happened before police showed up or before the camera started recording
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#16
"the ONLY avenue cops use is lethal force" ... when dealing with Black and Brown people
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#21
The issue is not whether the cop should have taken action to protect the people there
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#25
Do you have a link to a video of the whole thing, that doesn't cut out when she is shot?
ExciteBike66
Apr 2021
#116
Wait for it...police are trained to shoot for the biggest body mass, They can't aim. etc. etc. etc.
Tommymac
Apr 2021
#37
Please explain. The life of the girl in pink was clearly at risk. This is not a straw man.
pnwmom
Apr 2021
#144
Badjacketing is a shit move, and don't worry, plenty of us don't like the cops already.
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2021
#31
Whomst could expect them to act differently, knowing what animosity lies in the human heart?
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2021
#33
I have not read one post that gives a meaningful way the officer could have reacted to the situation
marie999
Apr 2021
#43
Starfish Saver swears the cop had options, but doesn't ever tell us what they are...
ExciteBike66
Apr 2021
#47
NOT an option in this case. Girl in pink would've been stabbed by the time the TAser deployed.
oldsoftie
Apr 2021
#69
Neighborhood eyewitnesses reported that the girl had a knife and tried to stab the other girl
JT45242
Apr 2021
#57
Black children and teens are routinely seen as larger and older than they actually are,
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2021
#64
DU doesn't have that kind of pull and the cop could've used a multi shot taser
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#81
So being plugged 5 times isn't torture and tasers have a greater chance of full stop than
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#88
How does a discussion on an online discussion board "set back" a verdict?
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#85
White folk love telling black folk we need to be quiet so we don't mess things up
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#93
lol, like if don't whisper & shit the cops gonna shoot everyone and Biden is going to turn on BLM
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#96
I'll never understand the mentality that believes "shot dead" is a cop's only choice
Arazi
Apr 2021
#82