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ExciteBike66

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118. I am certain he could have missed, it's a quick moving situation

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Wed Apr 21, 2021, 04:55 PM

Apr 2021

and cops are not always known for hitting their targets.

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Are we really going to sit here and pretend there's no alternative to police gunning down teenager [View all] Soph0571 Apr 2021 OP

K&R, Americans are conditioned to believe Americans are so bad that we need to be gunned down uponit7771 Apr 2021 #1

You know? Soph0571 Apr 2021 #3

+1, it seems in the UK the police care about the relationship the LEOs have with the communities uponit7771 Apr 2021 #4

"perception" of threat? Watch the video; the girl is about to stab another person. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #11

When viewed in slow motion 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2021 #22

The cop immediately stated that she tried to stab the other girl, and was correct in that greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #35

You didn't see it either 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2021 #38

The cop said that Ms. Bryant tried to stab the other girl greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #40

You are investigating this incident? 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2021 #48

It's in the video greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #52

The girl first swung the knife at another girl right in front of him. Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #90

Thanks 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2021 #107

I wasn't at the scene - Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #108

The five shots seems excessive questionseverything Apr 2021 #123

Wasn't the call about a person armed with a knife/possible attempted stabbing? [nt] Nexus2 Apr 2021 #109

Really? 2naSalit Apr 2021 #27

What is the other option here? ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #42

Taser? 2naSalit Apr 2021 #50

Taser has one shot and doesn't always work, also it wasn't in his hand ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #51

Wow. 2naSalit Apr 2021 #53

It's true, he had no other options. ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #54

This is wrong, the current tasers have up to 3 shots in them uponit7771 Apr 2021 #79

She was on the other girl. She would have stabbed her before he could pull and taser her. marie999 Apr 2021 #87

What model taser did the cop have? ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #112

***FALSE*** Current tasers have up to 3 shots uponit7771 Apr 2021 #78

Don Lemon and other CNN shows had a series of experts on that said a Taser was highly unlikely Celerity Apr 2021 #139

There are options. There are ways to disarm a knife wielding suspect Arazi Apr 2021 #72

Was the cop close enough to use wnylib Apr 2021 #110

Yeah, if someone is about to stab ME, I hope a cop would shoot them too. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #59

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #68

This is false, use a 3 shot taser uponit7771 Apr 2021 #80

A Taser dart doesnt deploy nearly as fast as a bullet. The likely result is a stabbed girl. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #114

Bullets are much, much faster and more accurate. Tasers are not accurate beyond about 10 feet. n/t pnwmom Apr 2021 #135

... and greater lethal force than an adequate stopping power of a taser. Like Maddow said ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #141

She could've been stopped with a taser, she's 15 and knowing she could've been stopped with uponit7771 Apr 2021 #77

Assuming the officer had a taser, a taser can't shoot its target nearly as quickly as a gun can. pnwmom Apr 2021 #136

Yes a taser can be discharged just as quickly as a gun the projectiles aren't as fast and ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #140

Plus I saw two other cops in the video. gldstwmn Apr 2021 #121

+1, I just read about that the other cops did not pull out a gun and get busy uponit7771 Apr 2021 #122

We need to study methodology in other countries bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #2

I am SO sick of this shit. 🤬 ShazzieB Apr 2021 #5

Looks like he saved the other girl Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #6

To reasonable objective folks, yes. To agenda driven ones, no way. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #60

Is it because half the country belives a gun is the answer to any and all sinkingfeeling Apr 2021 #7

People are willing to pay this price rather than try abolition. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #8

Amen. Sunsky Apr 2021 #9

Bullshit. The girl was in the process of STABBING someone. There's ZERO time for anything else. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #10

Since people think it is important to bring up what a Chicago 13-year-old AZProgressive Apr 2021 #12

So, it was a kid trying to save her own life from her tormentors.... jaxexpat Apr 2021 #13

May just need to borrow this quote, if you don't mind? Karma13612 Apr 2021 #20

Thanks. Those of us who presume to overcome few challenges fulfilling our desires cannot know. jaxexpat Apr 2021 #58

Wow! Karma13612 Apr 2021 #143

If she was scared for her life, why was she running at the other girl? ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #44

We'll see what comes out of the call investigation, oldsoftie Apr 2021 #15

Because a frightened teenager is supposed to know the exact correct way to call for help StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #29

No one is saying the police shouldn't have stopped the stabbing. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2021 #49

Cops get the benefit of the doubt and who are we to second guess them? StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #56

But but but but... she wasn't robotically rational in a high-stress, fight-for-flight situation! Act_of_Reparation Apr 2021 #100

Yup. The guys with the gun can go all Barney Fife because they're scared StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #101

But there is also a Black girl (the one in pink) who might be still alive today pnwmom Apr 2021 #138

What happened before police showed up or before the camera started recording StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #16

Exactly Sunsky Apr 2021 #17

Only white men can stand their ground StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #30

I assume that's a rhetorical question StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #14

What would have happened if Karma13612 Apr 2021 #18

"the ONLY avenue cops use is lethal force" ... when dealing with Black and Brown people StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #21

Indeed. And sad.....eom Karma13612 Apr 2021 #23

Right? It seems to be the only "tool" Bettie Apr 2021 #55

She was about to either kill Roc2020 Apr 2021 #19

The issue is not whether the cop should have taken action to protect the people there StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #25

List the other options please. ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #45

One that i can think of is ONE SHOT. bluestarone Apr 2021 #106

So the shooting is justified if it is only one bullet? ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #111

Just saying ONE SHOT STOPPED the attack! bluestarone Apr 2021 #113

Do you have a link to a video of the whole thing, that doesn't cut out when she is shot? ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #116

NO. BUT bluestarone Apr 2021 #117

I am certain he could have missed, it's a quick moving situation ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #118

That he is a lousy shot isn't a good defense questionseverything Apr 2021 #124

Any shots questionable? She was committing a murder! ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #132

Could not have missed?!? Have you ever trained with a handgun? GulfCoast66 Apr 2021 #126

One shot In her butt or legs would have done the job womanofthehills Apr 2021 #129

Shooting her in the butt or leg would stop her arm? ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #133

So shoot her in the leg. Police are trained how to aim, right? TheRickles Apr 2021 #34

Wait for it...police are trained to shoot for the biggest body mass, They can't aim. etc. etc. etc. Tommymac Apr 2021 #37

How does shooting her leg stop her arm from thrusting her knife? ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #46

OMG another movie buff. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #62

He should have shot the knife out of her hands! FSogol Apr 2021 #66

You've been watching to many movies, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #67

Police in other countries routinely deal with knives. Tommymac Apr 2021 #36

The girl in pink who was on the verge of being stabbed was also Black. pnwmom Apr 2021 #137

Strawman argument. Please do better. Tommymac Apr 2021 #142

Please explain. The life of the girl in pink was clearly at risk. This is not a straw man. pnwmom Apr 2021 #144

Policing is going to have to change madville Apr 2021 #24

a bullet to the leg would have stopped it i think :( samnsara Apr 2021 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Chakaconcarne Apr 2021 #28

Badjacketing is a shit move, and don't worry, plenty of us don't like the cops already. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #31

Poor, misunderstood cops StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #32

Whomst could expect them to act differently, knowing what animosity lies in the human heart? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #33

This has to, stop. wendyb-NC Apr 2021 #39

She was in the actual act of murdering someone else... ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #41

I have not read one post that gives a meaningful way the officer could have reacted to the situation marie999 Apr 2021 #43

Starfish Saver swears the cop had options, but doesn't ever tell us what they are... ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #47

See post #50. nt Wednesdays Apr 2021 #63

NOT an option in this case. Girl in pink would've been stabbed by the time the TAser deployed. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #69

Neighborhood eyewitnesses reported that the girl had a knife and tried to stab the other girl JT45242 Apr 2021 #57

I know they're "kids" but have you seen the size of these "kids"? JuJuChen Apr 2021 #61

Black children and teens are routinely seen as larger and older than they actually are, WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #64

She was larger then the girl in pink along with having a knife Raine Apr 2021 #128

Abolition now. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #65

I'm afraid that outrage over this kcr Apr 2021 #70

What does this mean? The verdict is in; it can't be "set back." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #74

DU doesn't have that kind of pull and the cop could've used a multi shot taser uponit7771 Apr 2021 #81

Tazers are torture devices overused by police to enforce compliance kcr Apr 2021 #83

So being plugged 5 times isn't torture and tasers have a greater chance of full stop than uponit7771 Apr 2021 #88

Tasers have contributed heavily to the problem kcr Apr 2021 #95

How does a discussion on an online discussion board "set back" a verdict? StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #85

How is it that we're the only ones talking about it? kcr Apr 2021 #86

DU is fairly woke information wise uponit7771 Apr 2021 #94

Only DU. Nowhere else kcr Apr 2021 #97

right ?! some of this smells like FUD uponit7771 Apr 2021 #91

White folk love telling black folk we need to be quiet so we don't mess things up StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #93

lol, like if don't whisper & shit the cops gonna shoot everyone and Biden is going to turn on BLM uponit7771 Apr 2021 #96

There are many, many training courses on disarming a knife wielding suspect Arazi Apr 2021 #71

And there's a difference between... brooklynite Apr 2021 #73

Unarmed police around the world de-escalate without killing suspects EVERY DAY Arazi Apr 2021 #75

When they are actively using the knife kcr Apr 2021 #76

I'll never understand the mentality that believes "shot dead" is a cop's only choice Arazi Apr 2021 #82

It's not the only choice kcr Apr 2021 #84

There are such courses sarisataka Apr 2021 #89

I'd be sad and horrified but that's a hypothetical Arazi Apr 2021 #92

Everything we are discussing is hypothetical sarisataka Apr 2021 #98

You're assuming the other girl would have been stabbed to death Arazi Apr 2021 #104

I'll stand by you 100% sarisataka Apr 2021 #105

"lethal force justified for about anything" when discussing a girl with knife in motion of a stab. LizBeth Apr 2021 #99

Global data shows that is is absolute rubbish malaise Apr 2021 #102

Global data shows that is is absolute rubbish malaise Apr 2021 #103

And by "pretending" you mean "having a different opinion than you do"? brooklynite Apr 2021 #115

Some are apparently ibegurpard Apr 2021 #119

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #120

There are some, right here on DU, who are doing exactly that. Stinky The Clown Apr 2021 #125

which is the view of most everyone Kaleva Apr 2021 #130

Shoot her four times in the chest! It was the best he could do! jcgoldie Apr 2021 #127

As to why five shots were fired: Decoy of Fenris Apr 2021 #131

She didn't just have a knife in her hand. She was gripping a knife as she lunged toward a girl pnwmom Apr 2021 #134