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George II

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70. The "bad campaigning" is being done hundreds or thousands of miles from the candidates...
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:57 AM
Apr 2021

...who are being attacked by slogans from those far away.

I see you talked about Max Rose. He was being attacked by republicans for things some of his fellow Democrats in NYC were saying or doing. Things he didn't say or embrace himself.

In a purple district like his, it was a shame he had to stand up to pressure from both ends of the spectrum.

Carville says we're too woke [View all] pattyloutwo Apr 2021 OP
Just trying to counter QOP lies... SergeStorms Apr 2021 #1
The Defund the Police stupidity costs Democrats a number of seats that we should have won LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #2
Blaming bad campaigning on a slogan doesn't help, having a messaging infrastructure that gets uponit7771 Apr 2021 #6
You are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #9
Yeah, that's bad campaigning seeing few if any dems were running on it and it wasn't part of dem... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #12
The progressive wing declared that this was the platform and the GOP used this LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #17
Sounds to me like those particular candidates ran some awful campaigns IMHO ck4829 Apr 2021 #21
Disagree, a couple of people isn't "the progressive wing" and the 04JohnKerry NON response to a uponit7771 Apr 2021 #46
Uponit, everything that sounds bad for us is amped up big time by Russia Hortensis Apr 2021 #97
Exactly. It is the definition of bad campaigning. ck4829 Apr 2021 #27
+1, humans in general don't like melee mouth and lack of conviction uponit7771 Apr 2021 #42
Unfortunately some who WEREN'T the candidates who lost used that slogan and cost others.... George II Apr 2021 #65
That's still bad campaigning and we should not blame bad campaigning on a slogan. Bottom line uponit7771 Apr 2021 #69
The "bad campaigning" is being done hundreds or thousands of miles from the candidates... George II Apr 2021 #70
Then its bad campaigning to allow an opponent to frame the debate with an non issue. There's uponit7771 Apr 2021 #73
As I said, it's a shame that some Democrats have to campaign against republicans AND.... George II Apr 2021 #76
There's NO PROOF it was a deciding factor no matter how many times some want to act like it ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #78
All the reasons Democrats say they did poorly down ballot LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #83
I believe Max Rose Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #31
What was Max Roses attack response? If he didn't have an attack response what was his primary uponit7771 Apr 2021 #47
He went on to disavow the mayor Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #91
Agree With You Me. Apr 2021 #68
Yes, exactly. Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #92
That is a very good example LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #89
True words here. bluestarone Apr 2021 #67
What democrats who lost ChrisF1961 Apr 2021 #25
+1, there were a few who had it on their websites but did not make it part of their platform or uponit7771 Apr 2021 #48
Who? ChrisF1961 Apr 2021 #50
Cori Bush tweeted dtp once, she won though (link) there aren't going to be too many examples uponit7771 Apr 2021 #51
But they won ChrisF1961 Apr 2021 #53
+1, your question cuts to the chase. We're blaming our anemic response on a slogan vs ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #54
You are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #58
I'll ask for the polls again but I don't see you responding to those request just posting the same uponit7771 Apr 2021 #60
Fewer than 1 in 5 support 'defund the police' movement, USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll finds LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #74
Got a poll on that claim? Claims are no facts on matter who they come from uponit7771 Apr 2021 #63
Fewer than 1 in 5 support 'defund the police' movement, USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll finds LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #72
Poll on DTP affecting peoples votes, we already know the action wasn't popular but we're uponit7771 Apr 2021 #75
GOP Launches Ads Highlighting 'Defund The Police' To Target Vulnerable 2022 Dems LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #77
Ad homs indicate weak position and that tweet is not a poll on dtp being a deciding factor in ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #79
Do you tire of being wrong? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #80
All the reasons Democrats say they did poorly down ballot LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #81
It's an editorial arguing a post hoc ergo propter hoc postition. LanternWaste Apr 2021 #99
The Law and Order Election LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #101
We literally lost this seat over Defund the Police. LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #56
Did he campaign on Defund the Police? No he didn't ChrisF1961 Apr 2021 #61
+1, there are too many people making excuses for not being on the attack and having an anemic uponit7771 Apr 2021 #66
We're talking about Republicans here. Their attacks bear little relationship... Silent3 Apr 2021 #59
Actually it was BLM who put it out there ChrisF1961 Apr 2021 #64
Can't name the seats but I agree. Duppers Apr 2021 #28
That's bad campaigning that's not ignorance of people. If we 04JohnKerry ever lie the kGQP comes out uponit7771 Apr 2021 #49
I agree Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #30
Exactly, same hear nt Hawker123 Apr 2021 #36
Exactly Owl Apr 2021 #93
I agree.. it sure as hell Cha Apr 2021 #95
Wokeness didn't get half a million people killed from a cold that was on steroids ck4829 Apr 2021 #3
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #7
and we're eating babies at the pizza parlor. Dan Apr 2021 #10
We lost a good number of races we should had won in 2000 LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #13
Noted. Still not going to let people who think America is run by Transgender Communist Muslim Cabals ck4829 Apr 2021 #18
+2 nt Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #15
Agreed. Caliman73 Apr 2021 #84
Agreed kcr Apr 2021 #98
maybe biden can use tomorrows speech to frame the jan 6 republican rebellion for what it was msongs Apr 2021 #4
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #8
That opportunity was in January fescuerescue Apr 2021 #88
Carville has nothing to offer us. PurgedVoter Apr 2021 #5
how could any Democrat be married to someone that was going to vote for Trump in 2020? Dan Apr 2021 #11
President Obama agrees with Carville LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #14
+1 betsuni Apr 2021 #22
Yes, defund the police is a bad slogan. PurgedVoter Apr 2021 #29
THANK YOU! StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #41
I really do not see this as anything to do with race or Carville pushing white people politics. honest.abe Apr 2021 #43
Being "woke" isn't a slogan or trend or movement StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #44
Sorry but no... Caliman73 Apr 2021 #86
A bad slogan has nothing to do with being woke StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #40
President Obama is right & Pres Biden Cha Apr 2021 #96
THANK YOU! ancianita Apr 2021 #35
word. KG Apr 2021 #38
"Too woke" doesn't mean too much real concern Silent3 Apr 2021 #62
"Free College" and "Medicare For All" were also shit slogans ... Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #16
I think "affordable education" would be better JI7 Apr 2021 #19
Agree, bad slogans don't help Hawker123 Apr 2021 #37
bad responses to slogans are even worse uponit7771 Apr 2021 #52
That is not how politics work in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #57
Too woke...Dude 74 million zombies voted for a buffoon RANDYWILDMAN Apr 2021 #20
Yeah, Corgigal Apr 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Apr 2021 #24
Carville is too asleep. /nt tonedevil Apr 2021 #26
That's nice. CentralMass Apr 2021 #32
Thoughts: Bloomberg often uses loaded words to "start something" like bs arguments within the ancianita Apr 2021 #33
Is that what his wife tells him? eShirl Apr 2021 #34
"I think it's because large parts of the country view us as an urban, coastal, arrogant betsuni Apr 2021 #39
Say, Jimmy, how about taking the fight to where the problem is? JHB Apr 2021 #45
Carville is correct LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #55
Hopefully, woke to gasbags like Carville Mysterian Apr 2021 #71
This woke/cancel culture stuff BoringUsername Apr 2021 #82
Precisely. The real problem is that they have thousands of outlets screaming it... JHB Apr 2021 #87
He's right. BannonsLiver Apr 2021 #85
Carville doesn't know what "woke" is. maxsolomon Apr 2021 #90
I disagree with him about being too woke, but he made some spot on comments. CrispyQ Apr 2021 #94
I'd like to rec your post! Treefrog Apr 2021 #100
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