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EarlG

(21,939 posts)
42. I hear you
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:11 PM
May 2021

I guess I'm not necessarily trying to get everyone to imagine how bad it would have been, but to point out that the Republicans are going down a dangerous road.

It seems pretty baked in to the conventional wisdom that all this GOP voter suppression stuff is a sort of natural occurrence, a reflexive response to their defeat. But I'm suggesting that this was in the pipeline whether they won or not, and we dodged a bullet because their "vote fraud" propaganda is significantly less potent than it would have been if they'd won, because Trump would have retained his massive megaphone -- the power of the presidency, along with his social media presence.

So we need to stay vigilant, because it seems pretty clear that what the Republicans are doing now -- not just the voter suppression bills, but their national leadership rallying around the "Big Lie" and the internal purging of anyone who disagrees -- indicates that they are going all in on shredding democracy, and are heading into a future where they will fiercely -- with force if necessary -- object to the results of every single election that they lose.

Having Biden and the Democrats in power will help to mitigate it in the short term, but if this is the GOP's long-term destiny, we'd better start preparing for it now.

wise words. thanks for this OP. NewHendoLib May 2021 #1
Good post. Elessar Zappa May 2021 #2
As their base of white voters shrinks with the demographic trends in population growth... Make7 May 2021 #3
Now the entire Republican party is worshiping that goddamn sick fuck. dalton99a May 2021 #4
The Democrats need to organize more than ever. panader0 May 2021 #5
They/we do, but that won't be enough ... all the supposed INDIES Cosmocat May 2021 #13
Rethugs thought they had the 2020 election in the bag Bayard May 2021 #6
Was no consideration given to Trump's approval ratings all along? maddiemom May 2021 #39
They realized they did not cheat bigley enough. Bayard May 2021 #48
Stupidest thing ever was Dan May 2021 #57
Now that is brilliant! Ligyron May 2021 #66
+1 Gidney N Cloyd May 2021 #71
Ironically, I believe these bills result from Republican legislators' KNOWING spooky3 May 2021 #7
Stay vigilant. Get vocal. Auggie May 2021 #8
Definitely. Our weak spot is messaging. wnylib May 2021 #52
IMO too much time has been spent defending our positions or responding to lies Auggie May 2021 #54
Yes. Biden's unapologetic, firm leadership wnylib May 2021 #56
If Covid-19 hadn't happened, he would have been re-elected progressoid May 2021 #9
Covid exposed his inability to deal wnylib May 2021 #53
A theory not supported by the evidence BGBD May 2021 #69
An insurrection is an insurrection, and they are using the October 1917 playbook bucolic_frolic May 2021 #10
K&R ismnotwasm May 2021 #11
Thank you for this post gab13by13 May 2021 #12
I think that trying to circumvent the 22nd would have initiated a HELL of a fight, BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #14
K&R n/t Alice Kramden May 2021 #15
You are right. Ohioboy May 2021 #16
Stay viligant Wild blueberry May 2021 #17
and then to what end? do those magas think their wannabe dictators won't take away their votes orleans May 2021 #18
Bullets do not work. gordianot May 2021 #19
yes, it could have easily been so much worse LymphocyteLover May 2021 #20
Absolutely. They're seeding the ground for when they eventually worm back into the Oval Office peppertree May 2021 #21
K&R. He claimed voter fraud allowed Ted Cruz to beat him in the 2016 bullwinkle428 May 2021 #22
"With a Democratic president and Congress, we at least stand a chance -- for now..." kentuck May 2021 #23
KnR Hekate May 2021 #24
Stay vigilant... Dawson Leery May 2021 #25
Yep. Thank you, EarlG. Stay vigilant! calimary May 2021 #26
"Election rigging"... Call it what it is. zaj May 2021 #27
Yep -- First neutralize the point of voting Rocknation May 2021 #28
Every election will be about refusals to accept anything but wins, called "integrity," & so the war ancianita May 2021 #29
we are still sliding llashram May 2021 #30
That's Frightening COL Mustard May 2021 #31
Things would have been A LOT different if Trump won. Beastly Boy May 2021 #32
Imagine.... Dan May 2021 #59
rumors the the death of the GOP are wildly exaggerated KG May 2021 #33
In my estimation, Mike Lee really fired the first shot when he said... SKKY May 2021 #34
K&R nt PoliWrangler May 2021 #35
Never forget, republicons look at a loss and FoxNewsSucks May 2021 #36
Amen! Biden may have won, but let's not let our guard down! Initech May 2021 #37
While I agree that we dodged a bullet, Sogo May 2021 #38
I hear you EarlG May 2021 #42
I hear you, too.... Sogo May 2021 #43
My interpretation: I'll have to start contributing to all those text messages & emails I am getting. NBachers May 2021 #40
Our OKSTATE Frosh daughter wrote/writing papers Pas-de-Calais May 2021 #41
Thanks for the summary of our existential battle for our democracy. So agree. Hortensis May 2021 #44
K&R mvd May 2021 #45
K&R mountain grammy May 2021 #46
'millions of Americans could have been convinced that it would be pointless to even hold elections' LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2021 #47
From the moment I learned that Trump had not won the popular vote in 2016 Rocknation May 2021 #49
They aren't I interested in elections anymore orangecrush May 2021 #50
If only one person in the country voted for Biden, Mr.Bill May 2021 #51
Great post! bluestarone May 2021 #55
I would bet on one thing if Chump won: you'd have to pay him personally Hassler May 2021 #58
K&R UCmeNdc May 2021 #60
Excellent!! ailsagirl May 2021 #61
Agree Totally colsohlibgal May 2021 #62
I feel more like we took a bullet through the spleen quakerboy May 2021 #63
I agree. Not a near miss, but a near fatality. WheelWalker May 2021 #64
The chilling words are at the end: "For Now" Jakes Progress May 2021 #65
"Democracy in Chains," by Nancy MacLean. raging moderate May 2021 #67
Excellent book about the American Right's long game. (nt) Pinback May 2021 #68
We only won by 42,918 votes krawhitham May 2021 #70
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