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JHB

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42. You and I remeber the late 80s and 1990s very differently, then.
Sun May 23, 2021, 01:40 PM
May 2021

The day after Bill Clinton won the 1992 election, Rush Limbaugh was on the air to delegitimize him. He rallied despondent Republicans by saying Clinton was "only technically" president because he'd won a plurality of the vote, not a majority. That Clinton had no mandate to carry out any big policies (like health care reform).

Even before the election they grabbed at any straw or made-up rumor to generate headlines about non-stop "scandals". The entire goal of that was to hobble him and, even better in their eyes, to bring him down. Those continued throughout his presidency, even to the point of engineering a perjury trap on a personal matter to give them the excuse they needed to impeach him. An impeachment they went through with even though they knew the Senate would not vote to convict because it would mar and delegitimize him, Hillary, and all Democrats to the base they were cultivating.

Two years after Rush made delegitimizing Clinton as the de facto Republican message, the Republicans swept into a majority in the House, thanks to Rush and to equally incendiary Newt Gingrich. As Speaker, Gingrich set about changing the House rules to make it harder for congresspeople to "fraternize with the enemy" across the aisle, and expanded the Speaker's ability to put pressure on any members of his party who balked at this arrangement.

The late 90s is also when they started the "voter fraud" chant, scapegoating ACORN and other groups working to register low-income and minority people to vote. Like a lot of instruments in their band, it had been playing in the background for years until they brought it up front and made it one of the headliners.

Who are all those Republicans who "accepted Democracy"? The old guard who steadily retired as they found themselves being dismissed as "RINOs" by the new kids raised in the house that Rush & Newt built? They were OK with the 2000 election, which certainly called for some public criticism by prominent Republicans about Bush's "MINE MINE MINE" stance when it rested on a paper-thin margin in a state run by his brother with loads of ballot problems.

Everything they threw against Obama was launched off the foundations and playbook they'd built to block Clinton and hamstring Hillary. Nobody's trying to deny that they super-sized the racist portion of their mix, but how much of that was actually more, and how much was just the fig leafs coming off? All the pieces they needed were already in place.

If you think it started with Obama, then you're wrong. That was when the Republican foamer tide had come in far enough that your feet got wet. This tide has been rising and getting foamier for a very long time.


that's been true since the '80s KG May 2021 #1
Truer words were ne'er spoken! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E May 2021 #3
This is entirely different, gab13by13 May 2021 #5
It's insanity, isn't it? kentuck May 2021 #8
GOP path to power driven by Religion, Racism & Wealthy Polluters Tiger8 May 2021 #22
Big money interests drives their power. gab13by13 May 2021 #29
Exactly! I saw a Billy Graham documentary on PBS Tiger8 May 2021 #34
They also tried a military coup against FDR burrowowl May 2021 #46
It may well not be all of them, and I'm sure it's not every single Republican. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #37
May I suggest that we stop using "GQP"? Eyeball_Kid May 2021 #20
The "Grand Old Party" no longer exists except in the fever dreams of a few octogenarians, jaxexpat May 2021 #27
Not entirely different. They've been working toward permanent rule all along... JHB May 2021 #24
That's not true. zaj May 2021 #26
Started with Talk Radio, especially Rush Limbaugh Tiger8 May 2021 #35
For those of us DENVERPOPS May 2021 #38
Yep. Absitively Posalutely. calimary May 2021 #50
You and I remeber the late 80s and 1990s very differently, then. JHB May 2021 #42
All of that is true and awful and vastly different... zaj May 2021 #44
See post 46 burrowowl May 2021 #47
This normalizes their radicalization under Trump. zaj May 2021 #25
The demon seeds include ronald reagan and fiends. calimary May 2021 #48
YUP.... YoshidaYui May 2021 #2
Guys like Liz Warren...older progressives, Maxheader May 2021 #4
Don't confuse Republicans with the GQP party. gab13by13 May 2021 #6
One party rule is never good. The party always gets weird. Captain Zero May 2021 #19
That is a defeatist attitude. Butterflylady May 2021 #23
Thank you! These kinds of OP are not helpful. Stop acting as if we have no options or power PortTack May 2021 #28
At which point we can only hope they're finally satisfied. jaxexpat May 2021 #31
The problem here is that they're NEVER satisfied. calimary May 2021 #49
"Guys" like Liz Warren??? niyad May 2021 #13
We've moved beyond "threat" jimlup May 2021 #7
Yup. Unless we change (e.g., expand) the SCOTUS KPN May 2021 #52
They look at Putin's fascist light kleptocracy with envy. paleotn May 2021 #9
Exactly! patphil May 2021 #41
Biden, the K-Bomb, Jen Psaki, and so on are giving a master class on getting things done and .... Botany May 2021 #10
Great post and I couldn't agree more. I'm counting on "most Americans" liberalla May 2021 #39
2022 should be a landslide and a game changer in the sitting President's party not losing seats ... Botany May 2021 #40
THIS KPN May 2021 #53
Game changers -- but not in a good way Blue Owl May 2021 #11
Republicans are fascist and want to end democracy liberal N proud May 2021 #12
Thanks Jo. Baitball Blogger May 2021 #14
As for Florida, the Union Troops should have never left. jaxexpat May 2021 #32
Well said, and the hard truth. wendyb-NC May 2021 #15
K & R...for truth...nt Wounded Bear May 2021 #16
What worries me is that more people won't catch on to these facts before its too late. Nexus2 May 2021 #17
Replace "More" With "Morons" And You Are Correct nt SoCalDavidS May 2021 #21
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾, Things change for me 100% on 1/6 Republicans are attacking what America stands uponit7771 May 2021 #30
hell yeah! llashram May 2021 #18
The young people of this country need to understand this and not be fooled FakeNoose May 2021 #33
Republicans are the real enemies of the people. dalton99a May 2021 #36
K&R smirkymonkey May 2021 #43
Rpublicans call for returning to normal are delusional dlk May 2021 #45
From Bradley Whitford LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #51
#GOPsurrender BadGimp May 2021 #54
Speak plainly- they are the enemy. hay rick May 2021 #55
Agree Totally colsohlibgal May 2021 #56
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