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In reply to the discussion: Why I know there's something to UFOs. [View all]Kid Berwyn
(14,885 posts)64. I don't know what UFOs are or if anything is possible.
I DO know UFO reports exist including eyewitness accounts and cases that left physical traces, such as burned bushes, radar tracks and photographs.
Probably old hat for you, Stuart G, but for those new to the subject, what police officer Lonnie Zamora reported provides a great overview:
In late afternoon on Friday, April 24, 1964, Socorro Police Sergeant Lonnie Zamora departed his cruiser on a rough and rocky dirt road to investigate an unidentified flying object which came to rest in an arroyo south of Socorro. The desolate, undeveloped area was primarily made up of mesquite and creosote bushes. What Sergeant Zamora witnessed at approximately 5:45 p.m. was an egg shaped craft traveling into Socorro from the south. It was later reported and documented as having been witnessed (in flight) by 5 tourists traveling through Socorro. Zamora, in an interview following the incident, stated that he witnessed a bluish flame and a loud roar coming from the direction of the arroyo.
Zamora approached the area where he believed the craft had landed. Zamora later stated that he had first seen the object from about 150 yards and believed it to be a car or some sort of vehicle in need of assistance. Zamora then radioed the Sheriffs Office about a possible accident he would be investigating. Zamora then contacted New Mexico State Police Sergeant Samuel Chavez, someone who Zamora trusted to assist in the investigation. After requesting the assistance of NMSP Sergeant Chavez, Zamora once again began approaching the object.
At about 50 feet from the object, Zamora noted seeing landing gear and a red insignia which he later drew for authorities. Zamora then noted bright blue flames and another loud roar until ultimately the object began lifting away from its resting place. Following the incident, many local residents visited the sight and witnessed not only burned bushes but also landing gear depressions in the ground. This incident has been recorded in many newspapers and magazine articles as well as written about in many books.
Source: https://www.socorronm.org/attractions/socorro-landing-a-ufo-story/
Others nearby that day also reported an egg shaped object: https://sentinel63.wordpress.com/2016/11/24/desert-encounter-with-the-unknown/
As for why they wont make direct contact, your hypothesis is as good as anyones. Humanity really may not be ready. Look at the panic Orson Welles and the Mercury Theatre caused.
The thing is, they or it or us or the universe or the multiverse themselves may be screwing with us. You know, putting on a show to make us remember a strange story. And that story may contain enough information to manipulate those who hear it into believing in things or behaving in ways they would not have done previously.
Jacques Vallee calls those who are behind that part of the phenomenon, the ones who make these things appear before our eyes, Messengers of Deception. They have an agenda. Whats on it, we can only guess.
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You'll know the mother ship when you see it, it'll be hanging in the air the way that bricks don't.
Towlie
May 2021
#7
Great record of the long history, written a decade before "Messengers of Deception."
Kid Berwyn
May 2021
#50
Would be a mistake to apply the typical alien movie narrative to whatever is going on.
BannonsLiver
May 2021
#16
If there was some department in the government that really know about the UFOs
captain queeg
May 2021
#2
You're right, this was just a 'show' and no way was really going to reveal anything of importance.
SWBTATTReg
May 2022
#89
I once saw something similar but with multiple lights looking like stars zig zagging
BSdetect
May 2021
#40
I think Clarke's three laws apply if we're going to speculate on what extraterrestrial
highplainsdem
May 2021
#15
Think about the technology we had on earth just 150 years ago compared to today. Then what
doc03
May 2021
#21
Here is an honest theory about UFOs..Yes there is a strong possibility of some alien race exceeding
Stuart G
May 2021
#23
How do we know that these things are not just debris that enters the earth all the time?
Maraya1969
May 2021
#24
I think you run into a problem when you use Trump to norm-reference human behavior
Bucky
May 2021
#35
Who has more credibility? The fool who is the most prolific liar in US history,
Roisin Ni Fiachra
May 2021
#51
There are no UFOs as stupid trump thinks. He is fooling you all to make you think
akbacchus_BC
May 2021
#52
We live in a time where there are high def cameras in literally everyone's pocket.
Dave Starsky
May 2021
#53
"But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly."
Caliman73
May 2021
#56
Definitely. Science, even with its flaws, is the best method that humans have of discovering fact.
Caliman73
May 2021
#70
Check out today's (Friday, May 28) POLITICO mag, then go through the thread.
Kid Berwyn
May 2021
#86