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Kid Berwyn

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67. Pioneer 10

Reply to edhopper (Reply #62)

Tue May 25, 2021, 08:33 AM

May 2021

Designed by Linda Salzman Sagan.

For the two Voyagers:

“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” — Arthur C. Clarke

Same can be said for being or not being on the government payroll.

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Why I know there's something to UFOs. [View all] Kid Berwyn May 2021 OP

Here's the thing. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #1

Why would you assume they need one? Happy Hoosier May 2021 #6

You'll know the mother ship when you see it, it'll be hanging in the air the way that bricks don't. Towlie May 2021 #7

Jacques Vallee also says the extraterrestrial hypothesis is inadequate. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #8

I was just re-reading Passport To Magonia (1969) this morning. Midnight Writer May 2021 #18

Great record of the long history, written a decade before "Messengers of Deception." Kid Berwyn May 2021 #50

Would be a mistake to apply the typical alien movie narrative to whatever is going on. BannonsLiver May 2021 #16

They could be interdimensional Generic Brad May 2021 #27

Why do you assume they are terrestrial? elevator May 2021 #32

Not sure where it is right now... tonedevil May 2021 #34

The mother shop will be in Detroit June 14th 48656c6c6f20 May 2021 #39

All from Monroe, Michigan would be there if we could. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #45

If there was some department in the government that really know about the UFOs captain queeg May 2021 #2

Excellent points, Captain. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #11

Broken clock. edhopper May 2021 #3

What if the clock is broken, yet runs? Kid Berwyn May 2021 #13

Vallee certainly is. edhopper May 2021 #14

He's got a PhD in computer science from Northwestern. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #20

Using Hynek as a recommendation edhopper May 2021 #41

He had a PhD in astronomy from U Chicago... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #57

I am well aware of who they are edhopper May 2021 #58

Why do you write that? Kid Berwyn May 2021 #61

Carl Sagan edhopper May 2021 #62

Pioneer 10 Kid Berwyn May 2021 #67

Biden just said something like "ask Obama" when asked about UFO's Polybius May 2021 #4

Fox Noise reporter asked, President Biden responded... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #19

Reid, was a smart man and I daresay, far ahead on this issue to SWBTATTReg May 2022 #87

I believe today's hearings accomplished their primary goal. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #88

You're right, this was just a 'show' and no way was really going to reveal anything of importance. SWBTATTReg May 2022 #89

The one I saw has not been duplicated as far as I know. Kingofalldems May 2021 #5

Sounds like what I saw in Texas in 1964 left-of-center2012 May 2021 #17

I had an uncle in Ohio who saw that phenomena around 1925 Captain Zero May 2021 #38

Pretty much what I saw. Kingofalldems May 2021 #43

Close Encounter I Kid Berwyn May 2021 #30

It was dark pretty much. Kingofalldems May 2021 #42

You're going to need ... Xoan May 2021 #9

What Navy personnel photographed... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #37

OK, I've got 2 UFO stories Trailrider1951 May 2021 #10

Please report these to MUFON Beaverhausen May 2021 #25

I once saw something similar but with multiple lights looking like stars zig zagging BSdetect May 2021 #40

Goodyear blimp has caused many a report. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #44

Who or what could survive the great distances they would need to travel. rickford66 May 2021 #12

I think Clarke's three laws apply if we're going to speculate on what extraterrestrial highplainsdem May 2021 #15

"What can be conceived, can be created." -- Enzo Ferrari Kid Berwyn May 2021 #48

Think about the technology we had on earth just 150 years ago compared to today. Then what doc03 May 2021 #21

Technological progress seems to be accelerating. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #54

Man I wish Frank Zappa were still alive! Initech May 2021 #22

Me, too. Every day. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #55

Here is an honest theory about UFOs..Yes there is a strong possibility of some alien race exceeding Stuart G May 2021 #23

Ok, I'm sold, I'll believe anything from now on! Nt USALiberal May 2021 #63

I don't know what UFOs are or if anything is possible. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #64

How do we know that these things are not just debris that enters the earth all the time? Maraya1969 May 2021 #24

UFOs as alien spacecraft really doesn't explain things. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #68

Early in my lifetime, computers were a dream...Sci Fiction.. Stuart G May 2021 #26

A police officer I worked with for years told me something amazing... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #72

The Known Universe Is Enormous colsohlibgal May 2021 #28

I agree completely...The thought that it is only us.."ludicrous" Stuart G May 2021 #31

Very few people claim "it's only us" brooklynite May 2021 #49

Passport to Magonia Kid Berwyn May 2021 #85

Another possibility. roamer65 May 2021 #29

Black holes as an "EXIT" from one Space-Time to another. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #71

Pffft that's not a UFO, that's Batman. Volaris May 2021 #33

A Poem Kid Berwyn May 2021 #76

I think you run into a problem when you use Trump to norm-reference human behavior Bucky May 2021 #35

Compared to everyone else, Trump is the bottom of the barrel. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #77

You can't prove a negative. ananda May 2021 #36

Logically so. However, there are tapes. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #78

Tapes mean nothing. ananda May 2021 #80

Tapes and photographs are evidence. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #82

I tried. Lord knows I tried. Iggo May 2021 #46

I know. And I appreciate it. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #79

The real reason Trump was dismissive about UFOs: area51 May 2021 #47

The Thing Kid Berwyn May 2021 #73

Who has more credibility? The fool who is the most prolific liar in US history, Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2021 #51

Absolutely credible USN witnesses. Truly fascinating reports, theirs. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #74

There are no UFOs as stupid trump thinks. He is fooling you all to make you think akbacchus_BC May 2021 #52

Harry Reid in May 21 NYT wrote there is something to it. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #81

We live in a time where there are high def cameras in literally everyone's pocket. Dave Starsky May 2021 #53

Have you ever tried to film a plane or chopper? ecstatic May 2021 #65

Still not buying it. Dave Starsky May 2021 #66

+1000!!! Silly people believe bad proof! Nt USALiberal May 2021 #75

Some of the best photos were taken by Rex Heflin, a government employee... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #84

"But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly." Caliman73 May 2021 #56

Excellent points. What some science people said... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #69

Definitely. Science, even with its flaws, is the best method that humans have of discovering fact. Caliman73 May 2021 #70

thanks, that's two things i've heard more than enough about. uncle ray May 2021 #59

Check out today's (Friday, May 28) POLITICO mag, then go through the thread. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #86

Then he went on to create the space force for some unknown reason... Mr. Sparkle May 2021 #60

Dr. Jacques Vallee should be science program director. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #83