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Kid Berwyn

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81. Harry Reid in May 21 NYT wrote there is something to it.
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:01 PM
May 2021
What We Believe About U.F.O.s

We still don’t know what they are — but we may be close to finding out.

Harry Reid, former US Senator
The New York Times, May 21, 2021

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Over the following years, as I became increasingly interested in U.F.O.s — in part through my conversations with former astronaut John Glenn, a fellow senator with a similar curiosity — my staff warned me not to be seen to engage on the topic. “Stay the hell away from this,” they said. I politely ignored them. I was inquisitive and, like Senator Glenn, I thought it was an issue that demanded attention, and I was in a position to act.

And act I did.

In 2007, while serving as Senate majority leader, I worked with Senators Ted Stevens, a Republican from Alaska, and Daniel Inouye, a Democrat from Hawaii, to secure $22 million in funding for what would become known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. This clandestine Pentagon operation investigated reports of U.F.O.s and other related phenomena, including U.F.O. encounters involving American military personnel. Some videos and photographs documenting these astonishing encounters have since been made public, reigniting America’s longtime fascination with U.F.O.s.

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Until recently, many military pilots feared the possibility of retribution for reporting sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena. But I believed that an unofficial taboo regarding the frank discussion of encounters could harm our national security and stymie opportunities for technical advancement. Which is why, along with Senators Stevens and Inouye, I helped create that secret Pentagon program in 2007. We wanted to take a close, scientific look at the technological implications of reported U.F.O. encounters.

I believe that there is information uncovered by the government’s covert investigations into unidentified aerial phenomena that can be disclosed to the public without harming our national security. The American people deserve to know more — and hopefully they will soon, with the release of a comprehensive government report requested by the Senate Intelligence Committee on the military’s encounters with U.F.O.s. (The report is due in June, though it may be delayed.)

What have I personally learned from official investigations into unidentified aerial phenomena so far? The truth, disappointing as it may be, is that there’s still a great deal we don’t understand. It’s unclear whether the U.F.O.s we have encountered could have been built by foreign adversaries, whether our pilots’ visual perception during some encounters was somehow distorted, or whether we truly have credible evidence of extraterrestrial visitations. There may be other, as yet unknown explanations for some of these strange sightings.

Regardless, I believe it’s crucial to lead with the science when studying U.F.O.s. Focusing on little green men or conspiracy theories won’t get us far. Of course, whatever the science tells us, some portion of the public will continue to believe in the reality of otherworldly U.F.O.s as a matter of faith. Ultimately, the U.F.O. debate can be broken down into a sincere belief in science versus a sincere belief in extraterrestrials. I side with science.

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Here's the thing. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #1
Why would you assume they need one? Happy Hoosier May 2021 #6
You'll know the mother ship when you see it, it'll be hanging in the air the way that bricks don't. Towlie May 2021 #7
Jacques Vallee also says the extraterrestrial hypothesis is inadequate. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #8
I was just re-reading Passport To Magonia (1969) this morning. Midnight Writer May 2021 #18
Great record of the long history, written a decade before "Messengers of Deception." Kid Berwyn May 2021 #50
Would be a mistake to apply the typical alien movie narrative to whatever is going on. BannonsLiver May 2021 #16
They could be interdimensional Generic Brad May 2021 #27
Why do you assume they are terrestrial? elevator May 2021 #32
Not sure where it is right now... tonedevil May 2021 #34
The mother shop will be in Detroit June 14th 48656c6c6f20 May 2021 #39
All from Monroe, Michigan would be there if we could. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #45
If there was some department in the government that really know about the UFOs captain queeg May 2021 #2
Excellent points, Captain. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #11
Broken clock. edhopper May 2021 #3
What if the clock is broken, yet runs? Kid Berwyn May 2021 #13
Vallee certainly is. edhopper May 2021 #14
He's got a PhD in computer science from Northwestern. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #20
Using Hynek as a recommendation edhopper May 2021 #41
He had a PhD in astronomy from U Chicago... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #57
I am well aware of who they are edhopper May 2021 #58
Why do you write that? Kid Berwyn May 2021 #61
Carl Sagan edhopper May 2021 #62
Pioneer 10 Kid Berwyn May 2021 #67
Biden just said something like "ask Obama" when asked about UFO's Polybius May 2021 #4
Fox Noise reporter asked, President Biden responded... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #19
Reid, was a smart man and I daresay, far ahead on this issue to SWBTATTReg May 2022 #87
I believe today's hearings accomplished their primary goal. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #88
You're right, this was just a 'show' and no way was really going to reveal anything of importance. SWBTATTReg May 2022 #89
The one I saw has not been duplicated as far as I know. Kingofalldems May 2021 #5
Sounds like what I saw in Texas in 1964 left-of-center2012 May 2021 #17
I had an uncle in Ohio who saw that phenomena around 1925 Captain Zero May 2021 #38
Pretty much what I saw. Kingofalldems May 2021 #43
Close Encounter I Kid Berwyn May 2021 #30
It was dark pretty much. Kingofalldems May 2021 #42
You're going to need ... Xoan May 2021 #9
What Navy personnel photographed... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #37
OK, I've got 2 UFO stories Trailrider1951 May 2021 #10
Please report these to MUFON Beaverhausen May 2021 #25
I once saw something similar but with multiple lights looking like stars zig zagging BSdetect May 2021 #40
Goodyear blimp has caused many a report. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #44
Who or what could survive the great distances they would need to travel. rickford66 May 2021 #12
I think Clarke's three laws apply if we're going to speculate on what extraterrestrial highplainsdem May 2021 #15
"What can be conceived, can be created." -- Enzo Ferrari Kid Berwyn May 2021 #48
Think about the technology we had on earth just 150 years ago compared to today. Then what doc03 May 2021 #21
Technological progress seems to be accelerating. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #54
Man I wish Frank Zappa were still alive! Initech May 2021 #22
Me, too. Every day. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #55
Here is an honest theory about UFOs..Yes there is a strong possibility of some alien race exceeding Stuart G May 2021 #23
Ok, I'm sold, I'll believe anything from now on! Nt USALiberal May 2021 #63
I don't know what UFOs are or if anything is possible. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #64
How do we know that these things are not just debris that enters the earth all the time? Maraya1969 May 2021 #24
UFOs as alien spacecraft really doesn't explain things. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #68
Early in my lifetime, computers were a dream...Sci Fiction.. Stuart G May 2021 #26
A police officer I worked with for years told me something amazing... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #72
The Known Universe Is Enormous colsohlibgal May 2021 #28
I agree completely...The thought that it is only us.."ludicrous" Stuart G May 2021 #31
Very few people claim "it's only us" brooklynite May 2021 #49
Passport to Magonia Kid Berwyn May 2021 #85
Another possibility. roamer65 May 2021 #29
Black holes as an "EXIT" from one Space-Time to another. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #71
Pffft that's not a UFO, that's Batman. Volaris May 2021 #33
A Poem Kid Berwyn May 2021 #76
I think you run into a problem when you use Trump to norm-reference human behavior Bucky May 2021 #35
Compared to everyone else, Trump is the bottom of the barrel. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #77
You can't prove a negative. ananda May 2021 #36
Logically so. However, there are tapes. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #78
Tapes mean nothing. ananda May 2021 #80
Tapes and photographs are evidence. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #82
I tried. Lord knows I tried. Iggo May 2021 #46
I know. And I appreciate it. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #79
The real reason Trump was dismissive about UFOs: area51 May 2021 #47
The Thing Kid Berwyn May 2021 #73
Who has more credibility? The fool who is the most prolific liar in US history, Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2021 #51
Absolutely credible USN witnesses. Truly fascinating reports, theirs. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #74
There are no UFOs as stupid trump thinks. He is fooling you all to make you think akbacchus_BC May 2021 #52
Harry Reid in May 21 NYT wrote there is something to it. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #81
We live in a time where there are high def cameras in literally everyone's pocket. Dave Starsky May 2021 #53
Have you ever tried to film a plane or chopper? ecstatic May 2021 #65
Still not buying it. Dave Starsky May 2021 #66
+1000!!! Silly people believe bad proof! Nt USALiberal May 2021 #75
Some of the best photos were taken by Rex Heflin, a government employee... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #84
"But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly." Caliman73 May 2021 #56
Excellent points. What some science people said... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #69
Definitely. Science, even with its flaws, is the best method that humans have of discovering fact. Caliman73 May 2021 #70
thanks, that's two things i've heard more than enough about. uncle ray May 2021 #59
Check out today's (Friday, May 28) POLITICO mag, then go through the thread. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #86
Then he went on to create the space force for some unknown reason... Mr. Sparkle May 2021 #60
Dr. Jacques Vallee should be science program director. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #83
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