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In reply to the discussion: Why I know there's something to UFOs. [View all]Kid Berwyn
(17,368 posts)81. Harry Reid in May 21 NYT wrote there is something to it.
What We Believe About U.F.O.s
We still dont know what they are but we may be close to finding out.
Harry Reid, former US Senator
The New York Times, May 21, 2021
Excerpt...
Over the following years, as I became increasingly interested in U.F.O.s in part through my conversations with former astronaut John Glenn, a fellow senator with a similar curiosity my staff warned me not to be seen to engage on the topic. Stay the hell away from this, they said. I politely ignored them. I was inquisitive and, like Senator Glenn, I thought it was an issue that demanded attention, and I was in a position to act.
And act I did.
In 2007, while serving as Senate majority leader, I worked with Senators Ted Stevens, a Republican from Alaska, and Daniel Inouye, a Democrat from Hawaii, to secure $22 million in funding for what would become known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. This clandestine Pentagon operation investigated reports of U.F.O.s and other related phenomena, including U.F.O. encounters involving American military personnel. Some videos and photographs documenting these astonishing encounters have since been made public, reigniting Americas longtime fascination with U.F.O.s.
Snip...
Until recently, many military pilots feared the possibility of retribution for reporting sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena. But I believed that an unofficial taboo regarding the frank discussion of encounters could harm our national security and stymie opportunities for technical advancement. Which is why, along with Senators Stevens and Inouye, I helped create that secret Pentagon program in 2007. We wanted to take a close, scientific look at the technological implications of reported U.F.O. encounters.
I believe that there is information uncovered by the governments covert investigations into unidentified aerial phenomena that can be disclosed to the public without harming our national security. The American people deserve to know more and hopefully they will soon, with the release of a comprehensive government report requested by the Senate Intelligence Committee on the militarys encounters with U.F.O.s. (The report is due in June, though it may be delayed.)
What have I personally learned from official investigations into unidentified aerial phenomena so far? The truth, disappointing as it may be, is that theres still a great deal we dont understand. Its unclear whether the U.F.O.s we have encountered could have been built by foreign adversaries, whether our pilots visual perception during some encounters was somehow distorted, or whether we truly have credible evidence of extraterrestrial visitations. There may be other, as yet unknown explanations for some of these strange sightings.
Regardless, I believe its crucial to lead with the science when studying U.F.O.s. Focusing on little green men or conspiracy theories wont get us far. Of course, whatever the science tells us, some portion of the public will continue to believe in the reality of otherworldly U.F.O.s as a matter of faith. Ultimately, the U.F.O. debate can be broken down into a sincere belief in science versus a sincere belief in extraterrestrials. I side with science.
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We still dont know what they are but we may be close to finding out.
Harry Reid, former US Senator
The New York Times, May 21, 2021
Excerpt...
Over the following years, as I became increasingly interested in U.F.O.s in part through my conversations with former astronaut John Glenn, a fellow senator with a similar curiosity my staff warned me not to be seen to engage on the topic. Stay the hell away from this, they said. I politely ignored them. I was inquisitive and, like Senator Glenn, I thought it was an issue that demanded attention, and I was in a position to act.
And act I did.
In 2007, while serving as Senate majority leader, I worked with Senators Ted Stevens, a Republican from Alaska, and Daniel Inouye, a Democrat from Hawaii, to secure $22 million in funding for what would become known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. This clandestine Pentagon operation investigated reports of U.F.O.s and other related phenomena, including U.F.O. encounters involving American military personnel. Some videos and photographs documenting these astonishing encounters have since been made public, reigniting Americas longtime fascination with U.F.O.s.
Snip...
Until recently, many military pilots feared the possibility of retribution for reporting sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena. But I believed that an unofficial taboo regarding the frank discussion of encounters could harm our national security and stymie opportunities for technical advancement. Which is why, along with Senators Stevens and Inouye, I helped create that secret Pentagon program in 2007. We wanted to take a close, scientific look at the technological implications of reported U.F.O. encounters.
I believe that there is information uncovered by the governments covert investigations into unidentified aerial phenomena that can be disclosed to the public without harming our national security. The American people deserve to know more and hopefully they will soon, with the release of a comprehensive government report requested by the Senate Intelligence Committee on the militarys encounters with U.F.O.s. (The report is due in June, though it may be delayed.)
What have I personally learned from official investigations into unidentified aerial phenomena so far? The truth, disappointing as it may be, is that theres still a great deal we dont understand. Its unclear whether the U.F.O.s we have encountered could have been built by foreign adversaries, whether our pilots visual perception during some encounters was somehow distorted, or whether we truly have credible evidence of extraterrestrial visitations. There may be other, as yet unknown explanations for some of these strange sightings.
Regardless, I believe its crucial to lead with the science when studying U.F.O.s. Focusing on little green men or conspiracy theories wont get us far. Of course, whatever the science tells us, some portion of the public will continue to believe in the reality of otherworldly U.F.O.s as a matter of faith. Ultimately, the U.F.O. debate can be broken down into a sincere belief in science versus a sincere belief in extraterrestrials. I side with science.
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https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEOsLrtgddIISu8Sv43m2Yz8qFwgEKg8IACoHCAowjuuKAzCWrzwwqIQY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
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You'll know the mother ship when you see it, it'll be hanging in the air the way that bricks don't.
Towlie
May 2021
#7
Great record of the long history, written a decade before "Messengers of Deception."
Kid Berwyn
May 2021
#50
Would be a mistake to apply the typical alien movie narrative to whatever is going on.
BannonsLiver
May 2021
#16
If there was some department in the government that really know about the UFOs
captain queeg
May 2021
#2
You're right, this was just a 'show' and no way was really going to reveal anything of importance.
SWBTATTReg
May 2022
#89
I once saw something similar but with multiple lights looking like stars zig zagging
BSdetect
May 2021
#40
I think Clarke's three laws apply if we're going to speculate on what extraterrestrial
highplainsdem
May 2021
#15
Think about the technology we had on earth just 150 years ago compared to today. Then what
doc03
May 2021
#21
Here is an honest theory about UFOs..Yes there is a strong possibility of some alien race exceeding
Stuart G
May 2021
#23
How do we know that these things are not just debris that enters the earth all the time?
Maraya1969
May 2021
#24
I think you run into a problem when you use Trump to norm-reference human behavior
Bucky
May 2021
#35
Who has more credibility? The fool who is the most prolific liar in US history,
Roisin Ni Fiachra
May 2021
#51
There are no UFOs as stupid trump thinks. He is fooling you all to make you think
akbacchus_BC
May 2021
#52
We live in a time where there are high def cameras in literally everyone's pocket.
Dave Starsky
May 2021
#53
"But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly."
Caliman73
May 2021
#56
Definitely. Science, even with its flaws, is the best method that humans have of discovering fact.
Caliman73
May 2021
#70
Check out today's (Friday, May 28) POLITICO mag, then go through the thread.
Kid Berwyn
May 2021
#86