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secondwind
(16,903 posts)9. K&R!!
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There is a bottom line reason women will keep losing this relentless war on their bodies.
ancianita
May 2021
#2
The 21st Century context of women's hopes and dreams is one thing. For the record I support
ancianita
May 2021
#31
Thank you for a thoughtful response, but if YOU have abandoned hope, please don't push that here
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#34
Okay, the poster confused me by saying "in bold". I didn't think to look for capitalization
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#64
Quote where I said "there is no hope." I in fact said, "The 21st Century context of women's hopes an
ancianita
May 2021
#60
Presumes I said you said it. "women will keep losing", no if/and/but, is denying hope
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#62
Didn't know what you mean other than the clear meaning of the words "women will keep losing"
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#71
Realism is not absolutism. Realism acknowledges opposition but mixes it with hope
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#85
Not really. I thought feminists might get it, absent further detailing. Not implying that you're not
ancianita
May 2021
#33
Feminists got it 150 years ago and 100 and 50. They do not get absolutist doomism
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#35
They have made progress in spite of forces arrayed against them, and because they're okay with
ancianita
May 2021
#39
Dismissing your absolutist conclusion "bottom line ... women will keep losing"
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#41
You're rejecting what you think is an absolutist conclusion. It's not. The bottom line statement
ancianita
May 2021
#51
Perhaps you might knock off making terse absolutist doomer statements to start debate. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#52
Or you could simply ask what the statement I made means. As in ASK. You started the debate
ancianita
May 2021
#61
You tossed a bomb into the thread. I have no obligation to ask. Your words were clear.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#63
No need to ask what "women will keep losing" means. It is unambiguous
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#72
Readers don't read for writers' benefit. Writers write for readers' benefit. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#84
"bottom line ... women will keep losing" is absolutist. Was no "if", "and", or "but". . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#53
I was off. It was over 200 years ago. I said "feminists got it", not women.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#54
I remember when I was in nursing school and working OB and we had an shy 11 year old girl
flying_wahini
May 2021
#10
and pregnancy could kill her. Yet, these fanatics have made NO EXCEPTION for
CharleyDog
May 2021
#40
In a rabidly anti-abortion state, every pregnancy that doesn't go full-term...
Girard442
May 2021
#16
I have a daughter who is severely retarded by genetic anomaly and my sister in law asked me
demigoddess
May 2021
#87