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ancianita

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39. They have made progress in spite of forces arrayed against them, and because they're okay with
Thu May 27, 2021, 12:48 PM
May 2021

their incremental advances over centuries.

Dissing and dismissing my reasoning, I see.
You must just want to be right in your persistent interpretation of me. Fine.

Ob/gyn perspective on abortion... [View all] babylonsister May 2021 OP
100% agree. 634-5789 May 2021 #1
There is a bottom line reason women will keep losing this relentless war on their bodies. ancianita May 2021 #2
Okay Doomer. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #8
Not cool, Denier. ancianita May 2021 #14
I'm not denying. You are denying women's hopes and dreams. Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #15
The 21st Century context of women's hopes and dreams is one thing. For the record I support ancianita May 2021 #31
Thank you for a thoughtful response, but if YOU have abandoned hope, please don't push that here Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #34
Well, the important thing to remember... Act_of_Reparation May 2021 #43
? Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #45
This isn't confusing. Act_of_Reparation May 2021 #49
? You continue to be cryptic Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #50
My guess is that they're not cryptic, because they mean this: ancianita May 2021 #59
Okay, the poster confused me by saying "in bold". I didn't think to look for capitalization Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #64
Quote where I said "there is no hope." I in fact said, "The 21st Century context of women's hopes an ancianita May 2021 #60
Presumes I said you said it. "women will keep losing", no if/and/but, is denying hope Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #62
I hear you, and see your interpretation, but you're mistaken. ancianita May 2021 #67
Didn't know what you mean other than the clear meaning of the words "women will keep losing" Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #71
I have a very different take on what ancianita wrote. wnylib May 2021 #78
Realism is not absolutism. Realism acknowledges opposition but mixes it with hope Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #85
Excellent points made here! calimary May 2021 #70
What are you saying? jmbar2 May 2021 #21
I think he is saying he wants people to wonder what he is saying. n/t NH Ethylene May 2021 #25
Not really. I thought feminists might get it, absent further detailing. Not implying that you're not ancianita May 2021 #33
Feminists got it 150 years ago and 100 and 50. They do not get absolutist doomism Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #35
They have made progress in spite of forces arrayed against them, and because they're okay with ancianita May 2021 #39
Dismissing your absolutist conclusion "bottom line ... women will keep losing" Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #41
You're rejecting what you think is an absolutist conclusion. It's not. The bottom line statement ancianita May 2021 #51
Perhaps you might knock off making terse absolutist doomer statements to start debate. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #52
Or you could simply ask what the statement I made means. As in ASK. You started the debate ancianita May 2021 #61
You tossed a bomb into the thread. I have no obligation to ask. Your words were clear. Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #63
Bomb is your word. Once again, you could have asked why I said that. I have. ancianita May 2021 #68
No need to ask what "women will keep losing" means. It is unambiguous Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #72
Understanding begins with asking. wnylib May 2021 #79
Readers don't read for writers' benefit. Writers write for readers' benefit. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #84
"bottom line ... women will keep losing" is absolutist. Was no "if", "and", or "but". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #53
I was off. It was over 200 years ago. I said "feminists got it", not women. Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #54
Please read Reply #15. ancianita May 2021 #32
K & R Duppers May 2021 #3
K&R mountain grammy May 2021 #4
Recc'd Ingersollman May 2021 #5
KNR niyad May 2021 #6
KnR x1000!! sarchasm May 2021 #7
K&R!! secondwind May 2021 #9
I remember when I was in nursing school and working OB and we had an shy 11 year old girl flying_wahini May 2021 #10
O M G LittleGirl May 2021 #23
and pregnancy could kill her. Yet, these fanatics have made NO EXCEPTION for CharleyDog May 2021 #40
probably more often than people think demigoddess May 2021 #47
I was shocked to my soul watching a girl of that age come into the clinic... Hekate May 2021 #56
Damn straight! lark May 2021 #11
K & R...nt Wounded Bear May 2021 #12
Either you believe in freedom or you don't! The Jungle 1 May 2021 #13
In a rabidly anti-abortion state, every pregnancy that doesn't go full-term... Girard442 May 2021 #16
I got yelled at by a doctor because he saw 2 spontaneous abortions demigoddess May 2021 #48
Oh, for f*k's sake! ShazzieB May 2021 #65
I have a daughter who is severely retarded by genetic anomaly and my sister in law asked me demigoddess May 2021 #87
K&R! Backseat Driver May 2021 #17
Not every woman can make the commitment to be a parent FakeNoose May 2021 #18
+10000000 moondust May 2021 #36
As a society we are definitely regressing. Pepsidog May 2021 #19
44, with hypertension and taking meds that cause birth defects Unwind Your Mind May 2021 #20
K&R nt PoliWrangler May 2021 #22
The anti-abortion movement is backlash from the women's rights movement dlk May 2021 #24
So true. These kinds of men want to control 'their' women. NH Ethylene May 2021 #26
It's all about maintaining women as a permanent servant class dlk May 2021 #42
Agreed RainCaster May 2021 #27
Until more women figure this out and join together in fighting for equal rights, dlk May 2021 #44
There are no more "ifs", or any other qualifications. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #28
Thank you seta1950 May 2021 #29
Fuck the Goddamned GOP NEOBuckeye May 2021 #30
It's always been about choice peggysue2 May 2021 #37
It's about money and power dlk May 2021 #46
Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas May 2021 #38
Thanks for bringing this to DU, Babylonsister.. Permanut May 2021 #55
No, abortions would definitely not stop if Roe was (gods forbid) overturned. ShazzieB May 2021 #66
Being the old fartess that I am Mossfern May 2021 #69
New York state legalized abortion in 1970, 3 years before Roe v. Wade. ShazzieB May 2021 #86
If women go to states that allow abortions, wnylib May 2021 #80
KnR Hekate May 2021 #57
I agree 100%. wendyb-NC May 2021 #58
As A Male GB_RN May 2021 #73
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2021 #77
If men could get pregnant, there would be an abortion clinic next to SammyWinstonJack May 2021 #74
What's next once the dogs catches the car.... William Gustafson May 2021 #75
these "pro-lifers" won't get the vaccine and pimp for guns Skittles May 2021 #76
This is why I will fight and live or die on this Lithos May 2021 #81
I wish everyone could read this. KPN May 2021 #82
Yes. Habitation May 2021 #83
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