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In reply to the discussion: Ob/gyn perspective on abortion... [View all]Bernardo de La Paz
(50,321 posts)54. I was off. It was over 200 years ago. I said "feminists got it", not women.
You wrote "feminists get it", I wrote "feminists got it", and now you are falsely claiming I wrote "women got it". It's important to read what people actually write and not attack straw figures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wollstonecraft
Mary Wollstonecraft (27 April 1759 10 September 1797) was an English writer, philosopher, and advocate of women's rights. Until the late 20th century, Wollstonecraft's life, which encompassed several unconventional personal relationships at the time, received more attention than her writing. Today Wollstonecraft is regarded as one of the founding feminist philosophers, and feminists often cite both her life and her works as important influences.
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There is a bottom line reason women will keep losing this relentless war on their bodies.
ancianita
May 2021
#2
The 21st Century context of women's hopes and dreams is one thing. For the record I support
ancianita
May 2021
#31
Thank you for a thoughtful response, but if YOU have abandoned hope, please don't push that here
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#34
Okay, the poster confused me by saying "in bold". I didn't think to look for capitalization
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#64
Quote where I said "there is no hope." I in fact said, "The 21st Century context of women's hopes an
ancianita
May 2021
#60
Presumes I said you said it. "women will keep losing", no if/and/but, is denying hope
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#62
Didn't know what you mean other than the clear meaning of the words "women will keep losing"
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#71
Realism is not absolutism. Realism acknowledges opposition but mixes it with hope
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#85
Not really. I thought feminists might get it, absent further detailing. Not implying that you're not
ancianita
May 2021
#33
Feminists got it 150 years ago and 100 and 50. They do not get absolutist doomism
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#35
They have made progress in spite of forces arrayed against them, and because they're okay with
ancianita
May 2021
#39
Dismissing your absolutist conclusion "bottom line ... women will keep losing"
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#41
You're rejecting what you think is an absolutist conclusion. It's not. The bottom line statement
ancianita
May 2021
#51
Perhaps you might knock off making terse absolutist doomer statements to start debate. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#52
Or you could simply ask what the statement I made means. As in ASK. You started the debate
ancianita
May 2021
#61
You tossed a bomb into the thread. I have no obligation to ask. Your words were clear.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#63
No need to ask what "women will keep losing" means. It is unambiguous
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#72
Readers don't read for writers' benefit. Writers write for readers' benefit. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#84
"bottom line ... women will keep losing" is absolutist. Was no "if", "and", or "but". . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#53
I was off. It was over 200 years ago. I said "feminists got it", not women.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2021
#54
I remember when I was in nursing school and working OB and we had an shy 11 year old girl
flying_wahini
May 2021
#10
and pregnancy could kill her. Yet, these fanatics have made NO EXCEPTION for
CharleyDog
May 2021
#40
In a rabidly anti-abortion state, every pregnancy that doesn't go full-term...
Girard442
May 2021
#16
I have a daughter who is severely retarded by genetic anomaly and my sister in law asked me
demigoddess
May 2021
#87