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ancianita

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61. Or you could simply ask what the statement I made means. As in ASK. You started the debate

Thu May 27, 2021, 04:08 PM

May 2021

with an interpretation and then personal attack. When all you had to do is ask. So I decided to answer any unasked question. You start debate, and we're still talking past each other because I'm explaining, not debating.

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Ob/gyn perspective on abortion... [View all] babylonsister May 2021 OP

100% agree. 634-5789 May 2021 #1

There is a bottom line reason women will keep losing this relentless war on their bodies. ancianita May 2021 #2

Okay Doomer. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #8

Not cool, Denier. ancianita May 2021 #14

I'm not denying. You are denying women's hopes and dreams. Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #15

The 21st Century context of women's hopes and dreams is one thing. For the record I support ancianita May 2021 #31

Thank you for a thoughtful response, but if YOU have abandoned hope, please don't push that here Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #34

Well, the important thing to remember... Act_of_Reparation May 2021 #43

? Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #45

This isn't confusing. Act_of_Reparation May 2021 #49

? You continue to be cryptic Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #50

My guess is that they're not cryptic, because they mean this: ancianita May 2021 #59

Okay, the poster confused me by saying "in bold". I didn't think to look for capitalization Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #64

Quote where I said "there is no hope." I in fact said, "The 21st Century context of women's hopes an ancianita May 2021 #60

Presumes I said you said it. "women will keep losing", no if/and/but, is denying hope Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #62

I hear you, and see your interpretation, but you're mistaken. ancianita May 2021 #67

Didn't know what you mean other than the clear meaning of the words "women will keep losing" Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #71

I have a very different take on what ancianita wrote. wnylib May 2021 #78

Realism is not absolutism. Realism acknowledges opposition but mixes it with hope Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #85

Excellent points made here! calimary May 2021 #70

What are you saying? jmbar2 May 2021 #21

I think he is saying he wants people to wonder what he is saying. n/t NH Ethylene May 2021 #25

Not really. I thought feminists might get it, absent further detailing. Not implying that you're not ancianita May 2021 #33

Feminists got it 150 years ago and 100 and 50. They do not get absolutist doomism Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #35

They have made progress in spite of forces arrayed against them, and because they're okay with ancianita May 2021 #39

Dismissing your absolutist conclusion "bottom line ... women will keep losing" Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #41

You're rejecting what you think is an absolutist conclusion. It's not. The bottom line statement ancianita May 2021 #51

Perhaps you might knock off making terse absolutist doomer statements to start debate. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #52

Or you could simply ask what the statement I made means. As in ASK. You started the debate ancianita May 2021 #61

You tossed a bomb into the thread. I have no obligation to ask. Your words were clear. Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #63

Bomb is your word. Once again, you could have asked why I said that. I have. ancianita May 2021 #68

No need to ask what "women will keep losing" means. It is unambiguous Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #72

Understanding begins with asking. wnylib May 2021 #79

Readers don't read for writers' benefit. Writers write for readers' benefit. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #84

"bottom line ... women will keep losing" is absolutist. Was no "if", "and", or "but". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #53

I was off. It was over 200 years ago. I said "feminists got it", not women. Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #54

Please read Reply #15. ancianita May 2021 #32

K & R Duppers May 2021 #3

K&R mountain grammy May 2021 #4

Recc'd Ingersollman May 2021 #5

KNR niyad May 2021 #6

KnR x1000!! sarchasm May 2021 #7

K&R!! secondwind May 2021 #9

I remember when I was in nursing school and working OB and we had an shy 11 year old girl flying_wahini May 2021 #10

O M G LittleGirl May 2021 #23

and pregnancy could kill her. Yet, these fanatics have made NO EXCEPTION for CharleyDog May 2021 #40

probably more often than people think demigoddess May 2021 #47

I was shocked to my soul watching a girl of that age come into the clinic... Hekate May 2021 #56

Damn straight! lark May 2021 #11

K & R...nt Wounded Bear May 2021 #12

Either you believe in freedom or you don't! The Jungle 1 May 2021 #13

In a rabidly anti-abortion state, every pregnancy that doesn't go full-term... Girard442 May 2021 #16

I got yelled at by a doctor because he saw 2 spontaneous abortions demigoddess May 2021 #48

Oh, for f*k's sake! ShazzieB May 2021 #65

I have a daughter who is severely retarded by genetic anomaly and my sister in law asked me demigoddess May 2021 #87

K&R! Backseat Driver May 2021 #17

Not every woman can make the commitment to be a parent FakeNoose May 2021 #18

+10000000 moondust May 2021 #36

As a society we are definitely regressing. Pepsidog May 2021 #19

44, with hypertension and taking meds that cause birth defects Unwind Your Mind May 2021 #20

K&R nt PoliWrangler May 2021 #22

The anti-abortion movement is backlash from the women's rights movement dlk May 2021 #24

So true. These kinds of men want to control 'their' women. NH Ethylene May 2021 #26

It's all about maintaining women as a permanent servant class dlk May 2021 #42

Agreed RainCaster May 2021 #27

Until more women figure this out and join together in fighting for equal rights, dlk May 2021 #44

There are no more "ifs", or any other qualifications. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #28

Thank you seta1950 May 2021 #29

Fuck the Goddamned GOP NEOBuckeye May 2021 #30

It's always been about choice peggysue2 May 2021 #37

It's about money and power dlk May 2021 #46

Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas May 2021 #38

Thanks for bringing this to DU, Babylonsister.. Permanut May 2021 #55

No, abortions would definitely not stop if Roe was (gods forbid) overturned. ShazzieB May 2021 #66

Being the old fartess that I am Mossfern May 2021 #69

New York state legalized abortion in 1970, 3 years before Roe v. Wade. ShazzieB May 2021 #86

If women go to states that allow abortions, wnylib May 2021 #80

KnR Hekate May 2021 #57

I agree 100%. wendyb-NC May 2021 #58

As A Male GB_RN May 2021 #73

+1000 smirkymonkey May 2021 #77

If men could get pregnant, there would be an abortion clinic next to SammyWinstonJack May 2021 #74

What's next once the dogs catches the car.... William Gustafson May 2021 #75

these "pro-lifers" won't get the vaccine and pimp for guns Skittles May 2021 #76

This is why I will fight and live or die on this Lithos May 2021 #81

I wish everyone could read this. KPN May 2021 #82

Yes. Habitation May 2021 #83