Ob/gyn perspective on abortion...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

62. Presumes I said you said it. "women will keep losing", no if/and/but, is denying hope

I said you denied hope, which you did by no "if", "and", or "but". I did not say you said "there is no hope".

I wrote

if YOU have abandoned hope it does not help anyone who still has hope to go saying there is NO hope.

which refers to you denying hope in your absurdly terse absolutist post that started the sub-thread.

Sure, I assert that denying hope in the way you did is equivalent to saying there is no hope.

When you write words, we only have those words. We do not read minds. When you write tersely, we can only take it exactly the way you have written. It was gloomy to say the least, which is a defensible position, but the bold bald defeatism of it is not defensible. If you mean there is hope, then don't shut it out and use only nihilistic words of doom.

There is a bottom line reason women will keep losing this relentless war on their bodies.

"bottom line" admits no alternatives.

"keep losing" admits no chance of success. It is not "mostly lose" or "lose so often" or "lose until we stop" this war.

"relentless" admits no chance of relaxation or truce or dissolution of the conflict. (There should be no truce.) It admits only perpetual endless war.

Three ways your post is defeatist and got the rejoinder it deserved: "Okay doomer".

You backtracked your absolutist statement only when you were called on it.