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midnight

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Tue Oct 16, 2012, 08:19 AM Oct 2012

Economist told a packed state House that a single payer plan would be 25% cheaper [View all]

for consumers, businesses, and the government than the current system of private health insurance, saving about $500 million in just the first year.

This is from 2011 but an interesting side note was what the incoming Gov. did with this info. He passed a Single Payer insurance plan to kick into effect by 2017. He also discussed how he didn't have to attack collective bargaining the way Scott Walker did.... If you have already read this, I hope you don't mind me re-posting, because it shows us we can have Single Payer without Austerity..

"The data emboldened Shumlin, the legislature, and the single-payer advocates who had organized throughout the past decade, even as Shumlin’s Republican predecessor dismissed their ideas. Last fall, Shumlin had campaigned on twin themes of job creation and health care reform, and he often cited his experience as the owner of a successful travel business. (“I know firsthand that the biggest obstacle to job growth is the 10, 20, 30 percent increases in insurance premiums.”) He slammed the current “unsustainable system that will...bankrupt us.”

Single payer advocates have been a constant and visible presence around the state. The independent Vermont Workers’ Center launched its “health care is a human right” campaign in 2008—inspired, said health care organizer James Haslam, by the desperate calls the Center was receiving on its workers’ hotline. “It was becoming more of a health care hotline,” he said. The group’s members went door to door, conducted numerous forums for legislators and organized health care rallies that drew thousands.

Health care providers also spoke up. Dr. Deb Richter, a family physician, moved to Vermont in 1999 from upstate New York, where she despaired at seeing her patients getting sicker and even dying as a result of problems with health insurance. As chair of Vermont Health Care for All, she gave 500 talks around the state, and helped bring along many reluctant health care providers. Richter was beaming when I saw her in the State House lobby last week. “I feel ecstatic,” she told me. “It’s like giving birth.”

Shumlin, a wiry, hyper-energetic lawmaker who often insists on shaking every hand in the crowd, staked his gubernatorial candidacy on single payer. It was a bold and risky move. The former president of the Vermont Senate, he was narrowly elected governor last fall after winning a five-way Democratic primary by some 200 votes, and defeating a popular Republican Lieutenant Governor by just 2 percent. Shumlin pointedly ignored the national Democratic strategy of tacking to the center, and instead championed progressive issues, from abortion rights to closing the state’s lone nuclear plant, to health care reform. I asked him why he’d hitched his star to single payer."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/vermont-single-payer-health-care



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du rec. nt xchrom Oct 2012 #1
We all know this is true but congress couldn't care less. lalalu Oct 2012 #2
well, sort of. iemitsu Oct 2012 #4
I get what you are saying but lalalu Oct 2012 #5
yes, that is true and hard to figure. iemitsu Oct 2012 #6
they believe government is bad at everything except war 0rganism Oct 2012 #13
you said it. iemitsu Oct 2012 #24
Even better genxlib Oct 2012 #3
Releasing businesses from the burden of having to pay this cost would unshackle AllyCat Oct 2012 #15
So the question I think most of us have is this. Savannahmann Oct 2012 #7
The insurance industry isn't about to allow that Patiod Oct 2012 #8
Best of luck Vermont, we are counting on you! A national single payer system depends on you now! Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #9
I thought Bernie's waiver Allowed them to do this in 2014. glowing Oct 2012 #10
I don't think Bernie was able to get that passed, so ACA allows the waiver no earlier than 2017. eomer Oct 2012 #19
I though Pres Obama said that if a state could glowing Oct 2012 #20
Yes, we're talking about the same waiver. eomer Oct 2012 #22
Thanks for this input... I had been aware of this attempt, but did not know the status... midnight Oct 2012 #25
BTW, when he represented a certain section of VT, glowing Oct 2012 #11
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #12
Single payer would never have passed. cleduc Oct 2012 #14
Had it passed, the jumping to it would skyrocket unemployment. Festivito Oct 2012 #18
HR 676 addressed this issue as well. There was no way for it to pass because the people that profit Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #26
Too tentacled to fail. /nt Festivito Oct 2012 #27
The Canadian system began with one province... mountain grammy Oct 2012 #16
I live in Canada cleduc Oct 2012 #17
That is a huge savings-11.2 trillion over 10 years. midnight Oct 2012 #21
K&R Mnemosyne Oct 2012 #23
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