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3Hotdogs

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13. First comes the call from cop assassins brother. Cops are probably now on alert.
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 08:06 AM
Jun 2021

Cop is killed.

Hero kills cop with pistol. Of course that is possible but not relevant to a civil award.

2nd cop arrives as backup. Since he is there as backup, can we assume he did not walk to the scene in plain clothes? Identification as cop, not necessary.

What is not clear to me, what information was the back-up cop given by dispatch? Did someone in the neighborhood report gunfire? Did the backup arrive at the scene and find his colleague on the ground? What state of mind was the 2nd cop in?

The key to a civil award is in what information the 2nd cop had before arriving at the scene. Arriving at the scene and finding someone with an AR in his hands, any cop's instinct is to protect himself.

Notice that Hurley's family's first response is to praise their family member and not blame the 2nd cop.

Unrelated to the topic: Open carry bullshit is gonna lead to more of these incidents of a cop being called to a scene and seeing someone holding such a weapon.


Police are TOO QUICK on the trigger, period. WarGamer Jun 2021 #1
His survivors will never collect. 3Hotdogs Jun 2021 #3
That's just your emotions talking, with all due respect. WarGamer Jun 2021 #8
First comes the call from cop assassins brother. Cops are probably now on alert. 3Hotdogs Jun 2021 #13
He was concealed carrying. gldstwmn Jun 2021 #19
He has handcuffed and gldstwmn Jun 2021 #14
First rule Timewas Jun 2021 #2
After the trauma of seeing a man with a gun and being forced to kill him... WarGamer Jun 2021 #9
Except that's what they are supposed to do. gldstwmn Jun 2021 #15
Won't matter to the NRA. Grokenstein Jun 2021 #4
They've been highly successful in Arvada. gldstwmn Jun 2021 #16
So the police shot a good guy with a gun? Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #5
Kind of predictable. How are the police supposed to distinguish a shooter from Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #6
Cops are supposed to ID and order to drop gun WarGamer Jun 2021 #10
They've f'ed this up royally. gldstwmn Jun 2021 #17
Unlike many... I Have no problems with cops using deadly force WarGamer Jun 2021 #24
And civilians who are armed are supposed to know what to do also. Kaleva Jun 2021 #29
Cops should never shoot Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #42
The guy very likely would still be alive if he had the proper training. Kaleva Jun 2021 #43
The hero with the gun ... Straw Man Jun 2021 #28
Never be holding a weapon when you hear or see enforcers MagickMuffin Jun 2021 #7
After the shooting, is it easy to think clearly and remember the rules? WarGamer Jun 2021 #11
He shot the perp because there gldstwmn Jun 2021 #18
Except it was perfectly legal for gldstwmn Jun 2021 #20
Despite being the hero and all ... Straw Man Jun 2021 #12
I remain unconvinced gldstwmn Jun 2021 #21
Most likely YMB Jun 2021 #23
Wait... WTF? Ohio Joe Jun 2021 #22
+1000 nt WarGamer Jun 2021 #25
What were you taught to do after a shooting incdient? Kaleva Jun 2021 #31
That does not address my post... Ohio Joe Jun 2021 #32
Because your post doesn't address the fact the guy screwed up Kaleva Jun 2021 #34
My training says... Ohio Joe Jun 2021 #35
I'll ask again. What does your training say about what to do after a shooting? Kaleva Jun 2021 #37
What does my training matter? Ohio Joe Jun 2021 #38
I'll take your inability to answer as an admission you have no knowledge about use of guns... Kaleva Jun 2021 #40
That you do not like the answer does not mean you did not get one... Ohio Joe Jun 2021 #41
It's not against the rules here for you to advocate gun owners don't need training. Kaleva Jun 2021 #44
hmmm... That is twice... Ohio Joe Jun 2021 #46
after he shot the bad guy he should have put his pistol on the ground scarytomcat Jun 2021 #26
I'm unaware of any self defense training program that says to pick up the perp's gun Kaleva Jun 2021 #30
We aren't requiring training in the US, do we? LisaL Jun 2021 #33
I think it is common sense and general knowledge. scarytomcat Jun 2021 #36
Once the guns come out everything is FUBAR. hunter Jun 2021 #27
And not one poster calling for murder charges ScratchCat Jun 2021 #39
Probably because the guy screwed up Kaleva Jun 2021 #45
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