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BumRushDaShow

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51. Actually re: this--
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jul 2021
It was the FDA's decision to not go through the OFFICIAL AUTHORIZATION process, but to release the vaccine on an EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION basis.


The "official authorization" process for vaccines normally takes several years (definitely not 6 months), which gives time for firms to set up and carry out various trials and then compile and submit their efficacy and safety data to the various Vaccine Committees for review (and later, discussions, including answers to questions from Committee members). The best practices look to having at least a year or more of data in order to also uncover and track any long-term issues, post-vaccination. The minimum efficacy goal is at least 50% effectiveness.

But in situations like this when you have a severe global pandemic, they will go ahead and authorize vaccines (or other drugs) for "Emergency Use" in an abbreviated process, because of a health emergency and no other product out there shown to be effective. And in this case, the firms had already started trialing their vaccines, and with about 6 months of data, were able to apply for the authorization, with the expectation that their trials would continue for the rest of a trial period (a year or more), when they could submit their final data to get full authorization.

It's been anticipated that at least Pfizer and Moderna will present their final data and seek the full authorization some time this fall (and I *think* they were considering whether to also include any data for use of boosters and/or updated versions of their entities too).

Regarding the Defense Production Act, it was invoked - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/03/13/976531488/defense-production-act-speeds-up-vaccine-production

But then you might recall this issue - https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-hs-emergent-vaccine-halted-20210419-jebhmgem4jcidmo3pxptk7c46y-story.html

There was an initial House Oversight Committee hearing in May and I believe they anticipate meeting again because they didn't get all the documents requested the first go around. Some quick highlights of that -



Using that Act for manufacture of a biologic is not like using it to construct certain devices such as ventilators (where the Act was invoked and subsequently, an extreme excess of them were made and now sit fallow because they are not really the right kind - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ventilators-insigh/the-u-s-has-spent-billions-stockpiling-ventilators-but-many-wont-save-critically-ill-covid-19-patients-idUSKBN28C1N6)
Vaccinated America Has Had Enough [View all] babylonsister Jul 2021 OP
Thank you! CrackityJones75 Jul 2021 #1
Yes, I've had enough. But what can I do? N/t wryter2000 Jul 2021 #2
Gotta agree with this. I am sick of willfully stupid people playing games with the health of the skylucy Jul 2021 #3
France and Italy seem to have. If this had been handled properly it might have been over by now. rickyhall Jul 2021 #4
I second Rebl2 Jul 2021 #46
They allow theselves to be manipulated DBoon Jul 2021 #5
Exactly. They listen to hateful garbage because they like hateful garbage. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #7
Rich Eisen (sports radio) was on AC360 last night and he came close underpants Jul 2021 #6
This. n/t ms liberty Jul 2021 #8
The non-compliant people are holding everyone hostage dalton99a Jul 2021 #9
They will risk death rather than eat the kind of shit it takes to back down, admit they are idiots, brewens Jul 2021 #10
They risk death to their & other's children. Nululu Jul 2021 #24
Unvaxxed going out in public is equivalent to drunk driving. hvn_nbr_2 Jul 2021 #11
For sure. Nobody in my community wnylib Jul 2021 #15
That's it! Tadpole Raisin Jul 2021 #39
Yes, I have. Too bad we don't follow France and Italy and sinkingfeeling Jul 2021 #12
Liberal "militia" zipplewrath Jul 2021 #13
I like the visual. It might make wnylib Jul 2021 #16
Speaking of militias... jmowreader Jul 2021 #66
I'm not wearing a mask TxGuitar Jul 2021 #14
Any particular reason? wnylib Jul 2021 #17
I'm vaccinated. TxGuitar Jul 2021 #25
I will but not because of Covid. tavernier Jul 2021 #26
I am fully vaccinated, but I wear a mask wnylib Jul 2021 #28
Fully vaccinated but I wear a mask because I live phylny Jul 2021 #30
I live in a community where 52% of eligible people wnylib Jul 2021 #35
Congratulations on the new grandbaby MustLoveBeagles Jul 2021 #67
Thank you and me too sorry about the idiots. phylny Jul 2021 #69
Congrats on the negative tests MustLoveBeagles Jul 2021 #74
Those are good reasons to continue to wear a mask, but Peppertoo Jul 2021 #63
I don't expect them to follow suit, but wnylib Jul 2021 #65
I'm a vaccinated, seriously immuno-compromised person. pazzyanne Jul 2021 #41
+1, I'm not going to wear an extra seatbelt cause someone else chooses not to. The consequences uponit7771 Jul 2021 #58
France is doing it right IronLionZion Jul 2021 #18
The same fools who voted for Trump. Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #19
time to start quarantining those who refuse to get the vax rdking647 Jul 2021 #20
We have to start treating the unvaccinated as criminals amuse bouche Jul 2021 #21
Atlantic (Paywall) link to Frum's full piece for those with access IronLionZion Jul 2021 #22
I'm vaccinated and was directly exposed to someone with COVID cherish44 Jul 2021 #23
Thank you for sharing that story! n/t phylny Jul 2021 #31
And even if you did... AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #33
Yes, more than enough. Long ago. Zero tolerance. Hortensis Jul 2021 #27
K&r Politicub Jul 2021 #29
I know I have. AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #32
+1 n/t area51 Jul 2021 #36
And here is the kicker. LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #70
To me there are two sets of people with different level of culpability dsc Jul 2021 #34
Tucker Carlson and his fellow travelers are evil people. Peppertoo Jul 2021 #64
When I am going into a store I put my mask on. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #37
That's where I'm at MustLoveBeagles Jul 2021 #68
Okay, but what does "we've had enough" translate into. Public arena fighting? ancianita Jul 2021 #38
+1 leftstreet Jul 2021 #43
Actually re: this-- BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #51
Thanks for your post. ancianita Jul 2021 #52
Let me just say this and hopefully it will make sense BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #53
I hear you. Of course you make total sense. ancianita Jul 2021 #55
I agree 100% BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #56
K&R spanone Jul 2021 #40
POX News should be sued to bankruptcy BlueWavePsych Jul 2021 #42
lol "blue america" leftstreet Jul 2021 #44
Exactly, it's not helping minorities madville Jul 2021 #60
If I ran a country, I'd be Macron right now. lark Jul 2021 #45
I like the way you think. ancianita Jul 2021 #57
There is also a large amount of Blue America that won't get vaccinated forthemiddle Jul 2021 #47
Yep, spot on madville Jul 2021 #61
Second Amendment? Stand your ground? Marcuse Jul 2021 #48
My bad. I misread as "an innovative injectable delivery system". Marcuse Jul 2021 #49
Republicans draw a line in the sand mgardener Jul 2021 #50
For the umpteenth millionth time, the FDA needs to sign off on full approval of the vaccines. Yavin4 Jul 2021 #54
I know 2 types of unvaxxed KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #59
The greenie health nuts. Nothing foreign goes into my beautiful body people. boston bean Jul 2021 #73
Agree with Frum Peppertoo Jul 2021 #62
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2021 #71
LOL! Jim G. Jul 2021 #72
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