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hamsterjill

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23. I stand with the United States of America, damn it!

Reply to bdamomma (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:30 AM

Aug 2021

Joe is the very best at foreign policy. I give him that and I await his full and complete explanation of his thinking on this issue. So far, silence.

But we are still the United States of America. Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck Greg Abbott. Fuck the Republicans. They don’t understand honor.

But Dems need to get control of this situation and start messaging it properly. The USA must come back from the Trump fiasco. Biden has even remarked about this in prior speeches. And the USA deals in honor. In giving its word. And we need to get those interpreters and other allies OUT. Or else we are going to look like assholes to the rest of the world.

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Afghanistan pull out was always going to be a disaster [View all] MaryMagdaline Aug 2021 OP

I stand with Biden katmondoo Aug 2021 #1

The disaster was the evacuation, not the pull out. The evacuation should have been done first JohnSJ Aug 2021 #2

That certainly makes sense on its face and I have thought about it a lot. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #5

Then it wasn't planed properly. Rachel Maddow had been warning about the inaction in getting JohnSJ Aug 2021 #8

Once the locals sensed withdrawal, the panic would set in. MaryMagdaline Aug 2021 #10

Just the fact that we had to send troops back in should tell you it was a blunder. JohnSJ Aug 2021 #16

This. Treefrog Aug 2021 #14

This failure of operational planning can't be waved away so simply Devil Child Aug 2021 #3

In the NY Time article you can just hear the blame from DoD and State, each at the other greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #6

A shit show becoming a shit storm Devil Child Aug 2021 #9

100%. Thats what alot of people on this board dont get dsp3000 Aug 2021 #12

That pretty much sums it up. It would have been better if withdrawal had been announced, Hoyt Aug 2021 #20

Hoyt, i can't describe the weird sinking feeling inside Devil Child Aug 2021 #21

Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan Klaralven Aug 2021 #4

Never should have abandoned Bagram AB Devil Child Aug 2021 #7

I agree, but we should never put the Army where the Marines can't evacuate them to ships. Klaralven Aug 2021 #11

Also agree. Infrastructure for a massive air-bridge effort was clearly lacking Devil Child Aug 2021 #13

The problem is how do you "retract" an air bridge? Klaralven Aug 2021 #18

That's why I was so flabbergasted by the abandonment of Bagram Devil Child Aug 2021 #19

Thank you for this input MaryMagdaline Aug 2021 #24

I stand with Biden bdamomma Aug 2021 #15

Of course we stand with Biden, that isn't the issue JohnSJ Aug 2021 #17

I stand with the United States of America, damn it! hamsterjill Aug 2021 #23

Yep. Maybe the US should stop trying to control the world. captain queeg Aug 2021 #22

Wait until the dead bodies start hitting the news ripcord Aug 2021 #25

Yes they will. The very reason our past presidents continued to throw good money after bad. MaryMagdaline Aug 2021 #26

Get 'em out, bring 'em home. Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #27