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Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
6. Good post, but I have some minor disagreement.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:22 PM
Aug 2021

You certainly can boost the legitimacy of a group or rogue nation by opening official channels of communication with them. Just think about our own Civil War. The CSA was desperate to be recognized by France and/or England as a legitimate state. No country at the time did so, though they wanted to. If the South had won more telling battles that had made the North consider some sort of treaty, France and England would have jumped in to recognize the CSA and begin formal trade. As such, they did not and the South did not get the significant economic support it needed to sustain the fight.

Trump negotiating a peace settlement with the Taliban, gave them legitimacy just as George W Bush meeting with them in the 1990's when he was governor of Texas, to discuss oil and natural gas did. The man whom the Trump administration pressured the Afghan government to free will in all likelihood be recognized as the next leader of Afghanistan. In the geopolitical world, meeting with a group or government often confers upon them, a sense of legitimacy.

Biden never met with or dealt with the Taliban. Biden, like President Obama before him, had to manage a situation that his predecessor put him into. Remember when Bush set the timetable for the US pull out from Iraq? President Obama got tagged with having pulled out, but that agreement was made before President Obama took office. Likewise, any dealings with the Taliban, were done before President Biden was in the Oval office. Biden told the Afghans in April that we were leaving in September.

Afghanistan [View all] H2O Man Aug 2021 OP
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Good post, but I have some minor disagreement. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #6
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