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71. talk about a fairy tale!

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 08:53 AM

Jan 2012

You apparently believe that just throwing the cliches out there you've proven something sinister and dastardly about this President and administration. If there's something specific regarding those associations that this President is supposed to have perpetrated, then out with it!

Otherwise, you're just spouting off something you think sounds relevant and reactionary, without any factual relationship at all to the actions or conduct of this administration, or to this President's actions or conduct.

It just sounds cool for some to put Wall Street and the President's name together. To me, it just sounds like bull.

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President Obama: “Everything that we fought for is now at stake in this election” [View all] bigtree Jan 2012 OP

Fought for? "We?" villager Jan 2012 #1

that's right bigtree Jan 2012 #2

Just trying to remember the things Obama fought real hard for, is all.... villager Jan 2012 #6

Here's a good place to start: FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #10

Yes, and I could give you the link leading to the broken promises, too (as you know) villager Jan 2012 #13

Just assume I'm a realist. And of course there are broken promises, but you didn't ask for those. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #26

continue here bigtree Jan 2012 #18

well, since you're in to blue linky circle jerk, after all, here's Politifacts promises broken chart villager Jan 2012 #19

that's a biased piffle bigtree Jan 2012 #25

wait -- the same source you use is "biased piffle" when that *same source* has facts you don't like? villager Jan 2012 #30

ooh bigtree Jan 2012 #36

+1 Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #53

biased piffle? the same source for both charts? piratefish08 Jan 2012 #58

But only 3 pages as opposed to 8 pages of promises kept. And... FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #28

FarLeftFist, the short list of items interesting to progressives is, indeed, very short. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #43

I completely agree. I am more than willing to give him a 2nd term to find out FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #48

so DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #29

So.. I started with a link to the "factual" website he used. Are you deciding what "facts" are now? villager Jan 2012 #31

NO, his facts are good DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #35

Here's a fact. The President in this speech talked a lot about Republicans giving tax cuts to the sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #52

yes, you must be dreaming bigtree Jan 2012 #62

Thanks for that, bigtree! pnorman Jan 2012 #77

No, I was trying to avoid the whole blue link fandango for this reason villager Jan 2012 #78

Thanks Big Tree! nt One of the 99 Jan 2012 #81

LOL. Your list doesn't mention NAFTA. Easy to list "kept" promises--just pretend the broken ones Romulox Jan 2012 #73

Yes, WE! Avalux Jan 2012 #4

I mean yes, "we" might fight for these things -- does the White House? villager Jan 2012 #11

Either we're in this together, or they win. Avalux Jan 2012 #14

I would agree. I would also hope you get the White House to come 'round to that point of view. villager Jan 2012 #17

The unfortunate reality, is the "we" (if we include Obama) have not fought for what we should. HuckleB Jan 2012 #15

That struck me first. emilyg Jan 2012 #49

Y'know: Like a PUBLIC OPTION for health care kenny blankenship Jan 2012 #51

k&r... spanone Jan 2012 #3

Who's that old guy in the last photo? BeyondGeography Jan 2012 #5

heh bigtree Jan 2012 #27

I feel bad for him about the suddenly-grey issue -- downwardly_mobile Jan 2012 #50

Sometimes it feels like 'we' are always fighting 'you' on keeping your past promises DJ13 Jan 2012 #7

Sure seems like pangaia Jan 2012 #8

'you are on your own economics.'" FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #9

What are you really fighting for, Obama? RC Jan 2012 #12

That's really the question, isn't it? villager Jan 2012 #16

don't pretend you're actually listening bigtree Jan 2012 #21

Alas, it's because I've been paying attention, rather than digesting press releases, that I question villager Jan 2012 #22

well then bigtree Jan 2012 #24

ah, the reasoned discussion comes out at last. villager Jan 2012 #32

and you've offered nothing here bigtree Jan 2012 #37

Well, you offered Politifact too. villager Jan 2012 #79

He's eyeing an internet ID. woo me with science Jan 2012 #33

I'm looking forward to Obama's negative campaigning Enrique Jan 2012 #20

well these are just excerpts, but he did offer a bit of both bigtree Jan 2012 #23

Sorry, but that was 2008. Occupy 2012 is where the fight is going. Nice load of pics, tho. (nt) (nr) T S Justly Jan 2012 #34

Mediocracy, half-handed measures and corporate cronyism are at stake?! nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #38

Is that your platform? bigtree Jan 2012 #44

where have I heard that before? bigtree Jan 2012 #59

Here is a list of the people in the Obama admin with ties to Goldman Sachs. Bonobo Jan 2012 #60

so you've just smeared them by association bigtree Jan 2012 #61

"Smearing by association"? Project much? Edweird Jan 2012 #64

Sorry if you read valid criticism as smearing but... Bonobo Jan 2012 #65

you're just twisting bigtree Jan 2012 #69

Yeah, sure. The Wall Street connections are purely coincidental and totally unrelated Bonobo Jan 2012 #70

talk about a fairy tale! bigtree Jan 2012 #71

Is that from a speech given at a Goldman Shareholders Meeting? n/t whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #39

ooh bigtree Jan 2012 #41

Anyone but an (R) for 2012 PowerToThePeople Jan 2012 #40

That's all that mattered to you? joshcryer Jan 2012 #45

Well, repeal the Bush tax cuts for the rich too, but... PowerToThePeople Jan 2012 #46

Fair enough. Fairly privileged but fully legitimate view to hold. joshcryer Jan 2012 #47

Maybe I'll hold my nose and vote for Obama. But we only got our UNIFORMED troops out of Iraq. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #55

Meh, I was kind of hoping for a shift left, but that is so damn bi-partisan it makes me wanna puke. joshcryer Jan 2012 #42

“Americans are sick and tired of ... [putting] the next election ahead of the next generation." AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #54

Everything that we fought for was at stake in the LAST election! Withywindle Jan 2012 #56

I like it. I think that will resonate with many voters. DCBob Jan 2012 #57

We who? MadHound Jan 2012 #63

most of his promises were kept bigtree Jan 2012 #67

Woohoo! Gimme more of that 'selling foreclosed homes to investors'! Edweird Jan 2012 #66

my home was rescued because of the initiative of this President bigtree Jan 2012 #68

That's a compelling pitch! "Obama saved MY home". Edweird Jan 2012 #76

WE! You could have fought a lot harder Mr. President. Hotler Jan 2012 #72

Remember how hard the President "fought" for Single Payer? Romulox Jan 2012 #74

sure as hell is. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #75

Obama fought for something? That's news to me... ddeclue Jan 2012 #80

Thankfully, most people don't get into the minutiuae that political junkies like us Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #82

you mean like a public option to end the stranglehold insurance corporations have on sick people... mike_c Jan 2012 #83

K&R. n/t FSogol Jan 2012 #84