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Ms. Toad

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37. Nonsense. You are actively misleading people with the data you cite -
Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:51 PM
Aug 2021

which overestimates the effectiveness of the vaccine, and encourages people to believe that taking any steps beyond vaccination is unnecessary.

My information is accurate, and always provided in context - unlike the information you and others provide - which is based on a snapshot in time, before the delta variant was prevalent, when mitigation was in effect, and when rates were relatively low. Providing that information without context, and implying that the past number is predictive of the future gives people who are vaccinated a false sense of security, and those who act on that contribute to the surge and to the development of variants.

I spent several hours Friday and over the weekend assisting in contract tracing triggered by a vaccinated jerk who decided masks weren't important, exposed 90 of his potential classmates, keeping two of them from starting school when he lied to the contract tracers about whether he was in close contact with anyone - delaying them from communicating with those he exposed (and preventing it entirely as to the 88 whose names I could not provide to the contact tracer who turned to me when the jerk refused to respond). One of those he exposed went home to a funeral and exposed her entire extended family. That was my second of three exposures within a week to individuals who were vaccinated and COVID positive. Fortunately the first was intelligent enough to stay home so my exposure was via zoom, and the third inadvertenty disclosed her status so I was able to immediately leave the area.

I have no more patience for people who minimize the risk posed by COVID to everyone, including those who are vaccinated than I do for people who insist COVID is a hoax. Both elevate politics over public health.

Not surprising. LisaL Aug 2021 #1
It stands to reason that a vaccine that is maybe 90 percent effective is Tomconroy Aug 2021 #2
It's less than 90% effective against delta. LisaL Aug 2021 #3
It's highly effective. Somewhere in 80 to 95 percent ballpark probably. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #5
The man who delivers my prescriptions has not been vaccinated left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #4
switch your pharmacy or tell them vaxed delivery people only Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #23
Could it be? kentuck Aug 2021 #6
I doubt it. LisaL Aug 2021 #8
Looks inline ... Any comorbidities associated with the 19%? tia uponit7771 Aug 2021 #7
New Mexico is about 60% fully vaccinated. If there were no difference between being vaxxed RockRaven Aug 2021 #9
I like what you're getting at here ... but to get really accurate Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #12
the article doesn't claim there is no difference, obviously iemanja Aug 2021 #13
You understand that I included that line as a comparison, not because it has anything directly RockRaven Aug 2021 #22
Fair enough iemanja Aug 2021 #24
And the OP has a pattern of picking out these deceptive clickbait stories. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #27
The OP has a pattern of posting a distorted view of very positive statistics. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #26
I think we may be going into a situation similar the yearly flu vaccine. patphil Aug 2021 #10
Nearly 60% Of NM Is Fully Vaxxed ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #11
Umm . . . 100%. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #16
I Was Making... ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #19
Just completing the thought, since I'm pretty sure Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #20
So have you received the vaccine, OP? Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #14
reporting accurate (and expected) information should not trigger Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #17
Both context and nuance allow us additional information LanternWaste Aug 2021 #18
You're not reading carefully if you believe your last sentence is true. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #30
Technically accurate numbers presented in a deliberately deceptive way. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #28
My only agenda is to get people who are vaccinated to realize Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #31
The way you and WOTH are presenting it comes across as deceptive and antivax. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #32
Nonsense. You are actively misleading people with the data you cite - Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #37
I haven't been citing different data, only looking at what you and WOTH are posting. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #40
Without doing a deep dive into the data - this isn't a surprise. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #15
And what percent of the dead? Please don't mess with Covid. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #21
87% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #25
+1000 At least one other poster in this thread seems to be a consistent antivaxxer too. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #29
Recognizing that vaccines have limitations - Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #33
Nobody says vaccinations are magic. You're posting distortions to make them appear useless. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #35
Mine is always balanced and in context. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #38
Your advice is good advice NickB79 Aug 2021 #36
Yeah, about that 13% of hospitalizations being vaccinated NickB79 Aug 2021 #34
Looks like the vaccine is working. Captain Stern Aug 2021 #39
How do they know how many vaccinated people have gotten the virus marie999 Aug 2021 #41
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