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KentuckyWoman

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116. Hmmm.

Sun Aug 29, 2021, 10:09 PM

Aug 2021

The point about snapshot in time is well taken. The stat is recent. If I have confused local vs nationwide then I apologize.

I don't know how much clearer I can be than saying even if vaxxed we need to keep using ALL the tools ALL the time. If that is downplaying....

But you have every freedom to decide my motives for me and apparently my intelligence as well. Enjoy the superiority while you can.

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Don't believe the bullshit that people who are vaccinated aren't getting really sick [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 OP

That's incredibly high compared to everywhere else. Phoenix61 Aug 2021 #1

Thank you! It's 8% of hospitalizations are vaccinated. nt Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #4

Not really. LisaL Aug 2021 #12

The original OP had it at 8% of deaths were vaccinated. Phoenix61 Aug 2021 #14

Yes I corrected Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #120

No one has ever said that the vaccinated aren't at risk of dying NickB79 Aug 2021 #2

The chances are quite small ... IF KentuckyWoman Aug 2021 #3

Of course. But if you Google it, it is bullshit because it says Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #7

0.003% risk of hospitalization or dying. KentuckyWoman Aug 2021 #11

Ya, I think it's in red rural areas where the people who Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #18

That is untrue...people were warned and if stupid governors with political ambitions lie then Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #57

I'm sure you could find something hidden & obscure Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #66

I only just started wearing a mask again...and I have been fine. The stores are insisting upon it Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #72

Sorry, I know I am over the top with this. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2021 #44

link for that figure please Celerity Aug 2021 #45

Here's the link. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #89

Two different things. The poster I replied to overstated the protection Celerity Aug 2021 #94

Since there is constant evolution and poor data overall, I think every conclusion should Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #98

Yes, still in it. All metrics (Antibodies,T helper, T killer, and B cells) still ultra high Celerity Aug 2021 #105

No. It is not the risk of hospitalization or dying. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #92

Hmmm. KentuckyWoman Aug 2021 #116

It's not local v. national Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #118

Rather, that is Not 100% true. However, it is mostly true. DemocraticPatriot Aug 2021 #31

Can I steal that line??? "I don't play the vaccinated covid lottery" Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #90

Sure lol nt DemocraticPatriot Aug 2021 #117

We'll, it is 92% true, But the 8% of hospitalized vaccinated people aren't the only ones infected Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #32

Thank you for this rational post. I refuse to be hysterical about this. I have done everything Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #58

It is often true. My sister lives in Georgia. There are many cases. Her grandson brought it Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #56

In red Texas you can't even get in a hospital unless you Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #70

That is sad...the only folks I know who have died were those who refused to get vaccinated... Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #73

Please don't keep believing it is only trumpeters/unvaccinated who are Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #74

Please stop misusing statistics. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #91

Thank you GusBob Aug 2021 #5

I know! It's like instead of listening to a clarion cry Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #9

I think the main problem with breakthrough wnylib Aug 2021 #36

The other problem is that, by and large, people who are vaccinated believe that whatever they have - Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #95

I read the same information, trying to figure out infectious period since both Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #101

The person managing contact tracing where I work - Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #104

Is that requirement or lack thereof for a vaccinated Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #122

CDC guidance Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #123

So what it really boils down to is how, if you contracted it during your Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #124

Unfortunately, people who have been vaccinated are really reluctant Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #125

That's amazing. But, even if we are midpoint on intelligence curve, there are 49% lower:) Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #126

I think it's dangerous to push this thinking. Treefrog Aug 2021 #65

Yes it is a dilemma... On one hand we have to get more people Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #68

CDC study of Los Angeles data showed that you're 29 times more likely to wind up Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #6

Vaxxed and Unvaxxed are taking in the same amount of viral load Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #21

Confident in the vaccine some vaccinated unmasked and went among pwb Aug 2021 #8

As was recently encouraged by the CDC. Crunchy Frog Aug 2021 #10

Bingo! What's really ironic is that their tendency to Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #25

That is EXACTLY what is happening. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #15

I do indeed, and sincerely, wish that karma kicks the willfully unvaxxed in the ass Tarc Aug 2021 #13

I am. Like that doc in Alabama said, it's the most miserable Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #16

Check this out, if you're into that. Crunchy Frog Aug 2021 #59

Thanks. I needed another rabbit hole to go down LOL Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #87

After reading this entire post, I must ask Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #17

Perhaps it's a warning... If you are vaccinated DO NOT Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #19

Well, it wasn't snark and if you had stated that in your first post Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #20

Whatever. Reread just for you... And said the same thing. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #22

I agree with you, it took me reading down the thread to figure out OnDoutside Aug 2021 #38

Wow didn't know there was thread police now Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #64

Well, it wouldn't hurt if you want a positive response, otherwise have at it. OnDoutside Aug 2021 #69

Good advise. My husband reminds me a lot that Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #88

And don't go around unvaccinated people AT ALL, DemocraticPatriot Aug 2021 #33

I still don't understand the point of the thread. CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #23

No? Well, surely there are other threads to go to where Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #27

I mean I guess. CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #34

Those of us who have been urging caution get tackled here, a lot, by people pushing the idea Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #96

I think caution is a good idea. CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #97

I don't put my faith in people - I put my faith in science. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #100

But how many people on DU today are saying that? CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #111

Gosh I hope I'm not like you describe there. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #109

I don't think anyone does anything on purpose really. CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #110

Could not have stated it better!!! And I often Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #121

Here's where people pretend iemanja Aug 2021 #85

But I thought the CDC said that vaccinated people could safely take off their masks! liberal_mama Aug 2021 #24

You know, if we give them a break for then, what about now??? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #26

+1000 hamsterjill Aug 2021 #28

This is a horrific situation. Almost 200,000 cases today and 1800 deaths. I don't know how they will liberal_mama Aug 2021 #29

We are completely fucked. CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #35

Bear in mind there is added danger being in a heavily red county, OnDoutside Aug 2021 #39

Well, Provincetown, MA is about as blue as you can get. Treefrog Aug 2021 #99

That's really surprising, I wonder what the dynamic was there ? What is OnDoutside Aug 2021 #106

Much of the US has been back in school for a while obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #71

+1 Can't believe the director hasn't been fired leftstreet Aug 2021 #67

Critical and lethal cases ARE rare with any vaxed, I'll trust the world worse data uponit7771 Aug 2021 #112

One of my law partners and his wife had a breakthrough infection LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #30

I went to a family funeral two weeks ago. My Dad's cousin died - of Covid. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #37

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Sorry For Your Loss Jim G. Aug 2021 #42

I did wonder if that was it, I actually checked just to see... Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #43

This Is Certainly Not How I Planned My Retirement Jim G. Aug 2021 #46

None of ever imagined that this would go on for so long Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #49

Sorry for your loss, Rhiannon. brer cat Aug 2021 #48

I missed the actual message, but I got the reference Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #50

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But I'm not a stranger Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #52

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I'm Rhiannon Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #54

Yup uppityperson Aug 2021 #61

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I'm so sorry about your cousin. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2021 #60

I don't believe the breakthrough infections are as rare as they claim helpisontheway Aug 2021 #40

No one picking up the stats Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #79

I would bet TheFarseer Aug 2021 #47

That is the whole point... I am challenging that they are Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #81

Most breakthrough cases are mild. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #55

Where'd you get that? It's like very few in the big scheme Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #77

World wide data, critical and lethal vax cases are rare even with Delta uponit7771 Aug 2021 #113

Misses the point but thanks Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #119

Those most vulnerable to COVID who are vaccinated can still die of covid ColinC Aug 2021 #62

No one should be saying the unvaccinated never get seriously ill with Covid dsc Aug 2021 #76

Yup! Not helping some people but 100% we HAVE to vaccinate l Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #78

Yep uponit7771 Aug 2021 #114

I've never once read that vaccinated people are not getting sick. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #80

Oops. Exact opposite Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #82

Perhaps I made my point poorly. Because miscommunication is on the communicator. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #84

As per protection, think there's definitely a distinction between Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #86

*****BINGO!!!!!!******* uponit7771 Aug 2021 #115

Well said, Laura! kentuck Aug 2021 #83

Latest CDC data show vaccination effective but breakthrough cases at a non-trivial rate andym Aug 2021 #93

" Hey, LFR! Why are you still wearing a mask and Social Distancing?" Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2021 #102

I think that really plays a behind-the-scenes factor. We know this couple Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #107

Locally in Sarasota Memorial Hospital Report...on FB Sancho Aug 2021 #103

that's very interesting. Thanks for posting. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #108