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saboteurs torpedoing the biden democrats agenda? nt msongs Sep 2021 #1
Our 'Centerist' Contingent, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2021 #2
That is not going to happen. I doubt Manchin or Sinema will change their minds. I am not Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #5
Sinema's term GoodRaisin Sep 2021 #9
The moderates wanted to vote on the bipartisan bill before the reconciliation bill ...fearing Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #7
The Onus, Ma'am, Is On the 'Centerist' Contingent The Magistrate Sep 2021 #8
Well said. OnDoutside Sep 2021 #14
I agree 100% BlueLucy Sep 2021 #17
It is not the moderates in the house, and they have no power to change this... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #24
There's no fear in this. "Moderates" want to go with the bipartisan OnDoutside Sep 2021 #13
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #19
You lose your majority if you don't defend your centrist once in office and it is very difficult Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #22
Your post makes no sense...Moderates who give us the majority will rightfully expect to Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #26
How is that any better than we don't get the 3.5 deal and we walk away from a bipartisan bill that Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #21
It might be instructive for you to revisit just how the two deals came OnDoutside Sep 2021 #31
We will lose the midterms if the bipartisan bill isn't brought up and walk away with nothing. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #3
We lose the midterms if voting rights doesn't pass, regardless of what happens w/infrastructure nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #4
That is not true. If enough people show up, we can win. I have to tell you even if we pass the Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #6
That's not true. Turnout can't beat gerrymandering. budkin Sep 2021 #11
Yes it can...how do you suppose we won Virginia? Gerrymandering is also in trouble due to Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #23
what makes you think Senate* republicans would vote for ANY reconciliation bill? bigtree Sep 2021 #10
Your ffs is very unfair. As for whether "the party shouldn't be held hostage Hortensis Sep 2021 #15
Well that's a stupid statement Walleye Sep 2021 #18
what's stupid is this constant pandering to individuals who don't have the party interest at stake bigtree Sep 2021 #27
Pandering? I don't know how anyone could imagine Senators Manchin Hortensis Sep 2021 #28
you're leaving out his influence on the final packages bigtree Sep 2021 #29
Of course, as Pelosi said, both will be done together. This is all OnDoutside Sep 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #16
I see no way forward until after the midterms with the 3.5 trillion bill at this moment. I hope Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #25
Most definitely agree with that. OnDoutside Sep 2021 #30
Fuck it!..................... nt Hotler Sep 2021 #20
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