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Mad_Machine76

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2. Are "moderates" insulated somehow?

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:28 AM

Sep 2021

As I recall, "Blue Dogs" whom gave Obama lots of problems in 2009-2010 were largely wiped out in the 2010 midterms. What are they even doing?! If they want to negotiate a smaller deal, fine. whatever. But don't tank the whole thing. We just got rid of Trump and they want things to just fall back to Republican control so soon? And as far as the distancing, Biden still has an average 50% approval rating. Not even all of the smearing over Afghanistan has brought Biden down to Trumpian levels of approval, approval figures which Republicans BTW DID NOT CARE ABOUT. Approving popular policies will make Biden and every other Dem MORE popular.

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If Biden's "Build Back Better" bill dies, it will be because 'moderate' Democrats killed it [View all] bigtree Sep 2021 OP

The Man Is Right, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #1

Are "moderates" insulated somehow? Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #2

Yeah, what really pisses me off is Joe Lieberman, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #7

Seems like it's a different day Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #8

Max Baucus and Blanche Lincoln as well PatSeg Sep 2021 #13

Let's not forget Evan Bayh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #37

Oh, I actually had forgotten him PatSeg Sep 2021 #56

actually of the three who tanked the drug negotiation piece two are in safe districts dsc Sep 2021 #15

538 has Biden at 46.3% approval Dave says Sep 2021 #48

Oh ok Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #55

K&R WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #3

What we don't need is a fight gab13by13 Sep 2021 #4

This 👆 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #38

And the fossil fuel industry want to blame progressives. aocommunalpunch Sep 2021 #41

Yet Progressives are the ones who catch all the shit. Funny how that works. Autumn Sep 2021 #5

If they don't vote for the bipartisan bill thus making it so we get nothing to run on Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #17

If we pass the bi partisan bill on what planet to you think Sinema and Manchin will budge dsc Sep 2021 #20

They are not going to vote for it as it is now period...you want and you want. And so do I Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #21

It was suspended for the entire last half of Trump's Presidency dsc Sep 2021 #22

That's not what Progressives get shit for. They get shit for any past or present assoiation with Autumn Sep 2021 #28

bUt hE's nOt a dEmoCrat! Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2021 #45

Manchin? lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #47

aND shE pOSed wiTh SuSan ANd aTAx CHeaT!!! DAMN that BERNIE SANDERS!!!!!!!! Autumn Sep 2021 #52

"diSqUALifying!!!" LanternWaste Sep 2021 #60

So you honestly believe Manchin receives no criticism on DU? LanternWaste Sep 2021 #59

Who the fuck said that? Manchin gets plenty of criticism... from Libs and Progressives. Autumn Sep 2021 #63

Spot on assessment. Some Moderate Dems are actively working against KPN Sep 2021 #6

I know of many "Moderates" who are fully supporting Biden Budi Sep 2021 #16

Point taken. Thanks. KPN Sep 2021 #31

That is bullshit. There are two moderates from red of red leaning states...Manchin and Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #23

Fair enough. KPN Sep 2021 #32

I think they all (not just mods) have differences at some point. Budi Sep 2021 #42

Moderates are the problem currently. Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #9

So are ALL Moderates the problem? Or just a couple in this particular instance. Budi Sep 2021 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Budi Sep 2021 #19

Two moderates in the Senate...and I don't see why House progressives think they can influence the Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #24

Are you saying it is wrong for House progressives to KPN Sep 2021 #35

Which 'progressives'? Budi Sep 2021 #46

That question is better directed to DemsRule68. I was responding the "progressives in the House" in KPN Sep 2021 #49

Progs, Mods, Centrist, Liberal,etc.. Dems are all a part of each depending on the... Budi Sep 2021 #51

???????? KPN Sep 2021 #58

You missed the point of my post. Budi Sep 2021 #65

The left wing has to drag the center, kicking and screaming. PTWB Sep 2021 #10

I could honestly scream...we are not likey to get the reconcilation bill as written... who you Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #26

IF the "bipartisan" one passes Bettie Sep 2021 #33

Jayapal's statement was in 100% support of Biden's plan. BradAllison Sep 2021 #34

And keep in mind that today's center is yesterday's right. KPN Sep 2021 #36

Sometimes yes. Sometimes the center drags the extreme left as well. LanternWaste Sep 2021 #61

Meaning Manchin and Sinema iemanja Sep 2021 #11

Yes Tom Rinaldo Sep 2021 #53

Problem solvers caucus iemanja Sep 2021 #57

If. ...lol Fullduplexxx Sep 2021 #12

Substantive. Again. "lol" LanternWaste Sep 2021 #62

All Moderates? Some Moderates? Here's a few headlines from Bouie's NYT articles... Budi Sep 2021 #14

It's the conservatives. Not the moderates. MoonlitKnight Sep 2021 #25

Who is backing out of what? The house will vote for the reconciliation bill...two Senators won't. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #27

They all agreed to this months ago MoonlitKnight Sep 2021 #29

LOL, she's a full blown right leaning libertarian now. BradAllison Sep 2021 #30

THIS. She doesn't resemble any Green I know. Not KPN Sep 2021 #39

She's a political Rorschach BradAllison Sep 2021 #40

"THIS. She doesn't resemble any Green I know." BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #43

Bingo -- self-interest first. KPN Sep 2021 #64

The moderate and strong liberal Democrats made it together Hortensis Sep 2021 #44

The movement of the GOP to focus on extreme social grievances and tax cuts has left D's economics andym Sep 2021 #50

I think all Democrats in Congress need to face this fact: unless you have a supermajority (be it a Vinca Sep 2021 #54