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You are right. The media loves to pronounce Joe Biden's career dead Walleye Sep 2021 #1
To hear people tell their bullshit, Progressives are the problem. Autumn Sep 2021 #2
Yes. And bullshit for the other market is that "moderates" (grabbag slander Hortensis Sep 2021 #10
I agree, conservative moderates are the problem. There are no moderate Republicans. Not a one. Autumn Sep 2021 #49
:) That first's not quite what I meant. All Democrats are slandered as Hortensis Sep 2021 #53
Progressives are slandered by both Republicans and moderates. Sinema took a shot at them today. Autumn Sep 2021 #54
Is it even correct to call Manchin and Sinema "centrists". TheRealNorth Sep 2021 #3
Ooooh you are really stirring the pot. People ain't gonna be happy. LT Barclay Sep 2021 #4
What are they gonna do? Cheerlead for Pharma Joe Manchin and Krysssstiieennnn? BradAllison Sep 2021 #23
Oy. Staaahp! This designation of Manchin and Sinema as Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #5
as if calling them (which you just did) 'our version of the lunatic fringe' is not divisive? Celerity Sep 2021 #8
Well, then. I guess that different usage of "centrist" makes it OK to be divisive of Democrats. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #52
you actually are trying to sell an angle that calling a centrist/moderate or moderate conservative Celerity Sep 2021 #55
I don't think those two are centrist. BlueLucy Sep 2021 #6
A bit disingenuous FBaggins Sep 2021 #7
Lol qazplm135 Sep 2021 #9
They're currently begging him to give them a number. FBaggins Sep 2021 #12
Everyone qazplm135 Sep 2021 #17
Continually? FBaggins Sep 2021 #24
a simple google search qazplm135 Sep 2021 #31
A simple google search that you won't include? FBaggins Sep 2021 #35
strange that qazplm135 Sep 2021 #37
Three And A Half, Sir, Is Already A Compromise Figure The Magistrate Sep 2021 #19
It wasn't a compromise with the moderates FBaggins Sep 2021 #22
lulzd Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #28
thank you qazplm135 Sep 2021 #32
Care to take a shot at proving your position? FBaggins Sep 2021 #38
Nonesense, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #33
You appear to be dodging the part that would prove your position FBaggins Sep 2021 #36
The 'Debt Ceiling' Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #43
No doubt. And that might dodge the political issue if they can get away with it. FBaggins Sep 2021 #50
Lol. $1T and $1.5T weren't numbers that represented "negotiating" in the KPN Sep 2021 #27
How much are the Republicans offering? FBaggins Sep 2021 #29
Neither Sinema or Manchin will even list most of the exact programmes they want to cut Celerity Sep 2021 #13
Sorry for the lack of clarity. It's the progressives that are anxious now. FBaggins Sep 2021 #15
I realised that and changed my post before you replied. Celerity Sep 2021 #18
depends on which is more important to them qazplm135 Sep 2021 #40
It turns out that none of that was true FBaggins Sep 2021 #60
JFC, I wish people would stop calling those two Senators "centrist" or "moderate" themaguffin Sep 2021 #11
I was simply using the title of the article, which are labels (centrist, along with moderate and Celerity Sep 2021 #20
I know. My comment is in reference to the media. themaguffin Sep 2021 #34
Exactly. Two Senators. And they are using the same extremist Nixie Sep 2021 #26
They are certainly centrists compared to the trumpanzee goops wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #48
agreed Celerity Sep 2021 #56
We knew this week was going to be stressful Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #14
Exactly, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2021 #16
Good points Sir. Celerity Sep 2021 #21
K&R bluewater Sep 2021 #25
"Progressive" and "liberal" are not synonyms. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2021 #30
they seem to often be used interchangeably in the US (and often only the US, as in the vast majority Celerity Sep 2021 #57
Only by people who are ignorant of nuance Spider Jerusalem Sep 2021 #58
whist I agree with you on this (as I already intimated) wholeheartedly Celerity Sep 2021 #59
If Manchin wants to wait until next year I feel like one of the things he is doing Tadpole Raisin Sep 2021 #39
not just that qazplm135 Sep 2021 #42
Exactly! +1000 bluewater Sep 2021 #46
The image is that Progressives are "extreme" soldierant Sep 2021 #41
Hear Hear, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2021 #44
+1 Celerity Sep 2021 #45
I Can't Even Say What I Think DanieRains Sep 2021 #47
Indeed! Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #51
K&Fuckin'R Carlitos Brigante Sep 2021 #61
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