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In reply to the discussion: I'm confused by people who are offended by swear words. [View all]Behind the Aegis
(53,950 posts)104. No, I didn't make your point. You missed the point.
Why is ok to call people who don't like swearing "prudes, social authoritarians, socially awkward",? You are classify me in a pejorative way because I don't like swearing.
No, I didn't. I stated: "Frankly, the reverse can be true in regards to swearing, as seen above, and even in the OP, that people who don't swear or have an issue with it, are prudes, social awkward, or authoritarians of sorts." and that was in reference to people who make assumptions about people who don't swear as being as misinformed as though who make assumptions, like you did, against those who do swear. This is either a misunderstanding on your part or a deliberate strawman argument, similar to the first response to me from you.
While it is oh so wrong for me to have my opinions about people who swear.
Except I already stated: "I have bosses who use swear words, which leads me to have less respect for them. Your opinion, to which you are entitled." You continue to jump to conclusions with your comments; "Also, my bosses are in a higher class than I am, so since I am just a peon I have no right to object to anything they do." and "How can I be authoritarian when I don't object to my bosses swearing? To me the fact that I can't object makes them authoritarian not me." I have no idea if your bosses are indeed from a higher class, only by what you are claiming. They may have more power due to their administrative nature, but it doesn't mean they are socio-economically more advantaged than you and, frankly, that isn't the point.
Lastly, some kids called me a "fat bitch", apparently objecting to that makes me a authoritarian prude.
You simply reworded the first strawman remark you made to me. (So my object to some kids who called me a "fat bitch" I am being classist?) And I will simply say, like I did the first time in regards to your assertion: Did I say that? Why no, I didn't. What you are describing is a personal attack which happens to have a word you classify as a "swear." Had those kids called you a "fat cow", would that have really been any different? No. It would have still been a personal attack, a gendered one, as well, just sans a word considered by some to be a "swear". No one is stating that you must accept personal attacks when profanity is used. No one, not a single person, has claimed such an attack is not abusive.
You are speaking about something specific and trying to rework what I said in my first post, which is about generality, to desperately fit your specific example. I will make this as simple as I can:
-- There are some who think anyone who swears is low-class and/or uneducated. This is can be a form of classism. EG. I heard Jennings use a profane word, so you know he is an abusive person, and so low-rent, to boot.
-- There are some who think anyone who doesn't swear or objects to it, is prudish (can also be classist), socially awkward, or an authoritative i.e. "Grammar (word) Nazi" EG. Someone heard me say "Damn!" when I stubbed my toe and proceeded to dress me down for "swearing!" That person was nothing but a self-righteous soul seeking attention!"
-- Swearing, using profanity, is simply another way in which some people communicate. Some use it sparingly for a variety of reasons, some use it profusely for other reasons, and some don't use it at all, for their own reasons.
-- I discussed but a few of "those reasons" in my first post, and referenced the reasons of others I had seen in the thread.
Just because you have been personally abused by profanity doesn't mean you weren't abused, but it also doesn't mean anyone who uses profanity is abusive, either.
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Intent is important. Profanity can be humorous and entertaining, it can also be cruel and violent.
sop
Oct 2021
#2
Not really faux prudishness. These are usually people who view it as their entitled deference.
plimsoll
Oct 2021
#59
I don't like it when anyone here tries to make anyone look small for any reason
MissMillie
Oct 2021
#4
I am offended far more by people telling others what they can and can't post...
MissMillie
Oct 2021
#19
I am mixed about the subject, while I understand some people are deeply offended, to me based on a
ShazamIam
Oct 2021
#12
My opinion is that when every other word is F**k it shows a poor vocabulary
question everything
Oct 2021
#17
Using just one or two swear words, but a lot, is a sign of a poor vocabulary
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2021
#91
I got an almost perfect SAT verbal score back in the day. And I curse a lot.
Scrivener7
Oct 2021
#85
Your parents have never tried to make me quit swearing, I've never met them. So by default
pnwest
Oct 2021
#35
Swear words are used *because* they are transgressive. Because they are transgressive,
Ocelot II
Oct 2021
#23
I have to admit that I like to swear around my uptight sister in law. It makes her
flying_wahini
Oct 2021
#37
omg--(been reading these back-and-forth exchanges); you have the patience of a
orleans
Oct 2021
#112
I like to curse. I curse here a lot. I replied to that thread and said so. But the DUer
Scrivener7
Oct 2021
#80
Lenny Bruce - when you outlaw the "f" word, you outlaw the ability to say "f" the government.
AZLD4Candidate
Oct 2021
#81
The last time I emailed my little brother, now a child not quite 70, I asked him if he could
Vinca
Oct 2021
#82
Hm. I can see what you mean. If I'm not stating my case clearly, let me elucidate:
pnwest
Oct 2021
#92
Seems to me that in your Buddhist template you have it backwards. Saying "shit" or "fuck"
Scrivener7
Oct 2021
#95
Cussing around grownups bothers me zero and it bothers me less and less that it bothers others.
Iggo
Oct 2021
#122
It sucks if it's done by assholes in the wrong settings or as spice to mask boring or stupid
gulliver
Oct 2021
#132