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Mad_Machine76

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11. The last comment I heard from a month or two ago
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 05:20 PM
Oct 2021

was that she said that "we'll see" after the BIFF passes, but, honestly, that doesn't sound very encouraging. I have a feeling she and Manchin and probably others in the House (i.e. Gottheimer) will walk away really quickly from BBB or continue to stall it to death once the BIFF passes. I feel like I would take those odds. Anybody want to join me?

She is useless Sanity Claws Oct 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #2
Fuck them both wryter2000 Oct 2021 #3
Lol Faux pas Oct 2021 #9
That would be better wryter2000 Oct 2021 #25
The last comment I heard from a month or two ago Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #11
My guess wryter2000 Oct 2021 #24
Ditto, ditto, ditto, FAWK THEM BOTH. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Oct 2021 #45
The word of a snake ColinC Oct 2021 #4
Don't pick on snakes wryter2000 Oct 2021 #27
Sinema and Manchin are straight up wreckers Celerity Oct 2021 #5
This should surprise no one. Little leverage can be exerted against them. That would change JohnSJ Oct 2021 #10
I bet one of them changes party Angrius Oct 2021 #6
Unlikely. They would have no power if they did that. JohnSJ Oct 2021 #8
Then use the 2 trillion and pass both bills. There is little leverage with Manchin or Sinema. JohnSJ Oct 2021 #7
what 2 trillion? Celerity Oct 2021 #12
The OP said Manchin said he would not go higher than 2 trillion JohnSJ Oct 2021 #14
He says he wont even start at 2 trillion, so how do we end up there? His starting point is 1.5 Celerity Oct 2021 #16
Because he didn't use his 1.5 trillion, I am just reading that perhaps 2 trillion might be the CAP JohnSJ Oct 2021 #22
I do not read it that way at all, but we shall see Celerity Oct 2021 #23
I know, wishful thinking on my part JohnSJ Oct 2021 #30
I hope you are right! Celerity Oct 2021 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Oct 2021 #35
That's not how I read it wryter2000 Oct 2021 #28
That he mentioned 2 trillion, instead of his 1.5 trillion, is why I am speculating JohnSJ Oct 2021 #32
And afterward she won't support it Bettie Oct 2021 #13
those are both possibilities, although IF we just go ahead and pass the bi-partisan bill before the Celerity Oct 2021 #17
Well, yes wryter2000 Oct 2021 #29
"she alone will have driven a massive nail into the coffin of our 2022 and 2024 electoral hopes" Dave says Oct 2021 #41
They are both being directed by McConnell. BlueNProud Oct 2021 #15
Fuck off Sinema- Schumer must bring the bill to the floor and make her vote No Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #18
her 'guts' are likely proportional to the deal/golden parachute she has been arranging for herself Celerity Oct 2021 #19
She would be ending her political career with a single no vote. Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #21
either she could (likely not successfully) flip to Rethug and run in 2024 as one, (especially if we Celerity Oct 2021 #34
Her ego is more important to her than her bank account Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #44
I think many don't understand, Manchin and Sinema don't care. You call their bluff we will lose JohnSJ Oct 2021 #26
Then we hang it around their necks wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #37
This was leaked from an anonymous source, and seems to be designed to get attention Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #20
I sure hope you're right wryter2000 Oct 2021 #31
I don't think she is bluffing. Her minimum wage vote told us that JohnSJ Oct 2021 #33
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Oct 2021 #38
I think her ego is bigger than her courage Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #43
Call her bluff. Reconciliations Bill first. Make her kill it. Freethinker65 Oct 2021 #39
She wished the Naval Academy a happy birthday four days ago. Which is an apt sentiment, because... Efilroft Sul Oct 2021 #40
I love this (in a black humored kind of way) Dave says Oct 2021 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #47
I'm over her vercetti2021 Oct 2021 #46
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