Thankfully, most people don't get into the minutiuae that political junkies like us (Reply #82)

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Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:07 PM

82. Thankfully, most people don't get into the minutiuae that political junkies like us

get into here. Otherwise, people would be perpetually disappointed with everybody and probably refuse to elect anybody POTUS period because nobody would be deemed "perfect" or "pure" enough. Most people want to know that he's on the side of the 99% and wants to help them and it's pretty clear that he is. It's equally clear that Romney is NOT.

BTW, The Republicans have repeatedly telegraphed/telegraphing what they plan to do if they win the WH and/or Congress in 2012. Do we want to completely lose SCOTUS? Do we want the CFPB gutted/removed? Do we want to go back to the way health insurance coverage was like before ACA? Do we want Planned Parenthood defunded?

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President Obama: “Everything that we fought for is now at stake in this election” [View all]	bigtree	Jan 2012	OP
Fought for? "We?"	villager	Jan 2012	#1
that's right	bigtree	Jan 2012	#2
Just trying to remember the things Obama fought real hard for, is all....	villager	Jan 2012	#6
Here's a good place to start:	FarLeftFist	Jan 2012	#10
Yes, and I could give you the link leading to the broken promises, too (as you know)	villager	Jan 2012	#13
Just assume I'm a realist. And of course there are broken promises, but you didn't ask for those.	FarLeftFist	Jan 2012	#26
continue here	bigtree	Jan 2012	#18
well, since you're in to blue linky circle jerk, after all, here's Politifacts promises broken chart	villager	Jan 2012	#19
that's a biased piffle	bigtree	Jan 2012	#25
wait -- the same source you use is "biased piffle" when that same source has facts you don't like?	villager	Jan 2012	#30
ooh	bigtree	Jan 2012	#36
+1	Wind Dancer	Jan 2012	#53
biased piffle? the same source for both charts?	piratefish08	Jan 2012	#58
But only 3 pages as opposed to 8 pages of promises kept. And...	FarLeftFist	Jan 2012	#28
FarLeftFist, the short list of items interesting to progressives is, indeed, very short.	JDPriestly	Jan 2012	#43
I completely agree. I am more than willing to give him a 2nd term to find out	FarLeftFist	Jan 2012	#48
so	DonCoquixote	Jan 2012	#29
So.. I started with a link to the "factual" website he used. Are you deciding what "facts" are now?	villager	Jan 2012	#31
NO, his facts are good	DonCoquixote	Jan 2012	#35
Here's a fact. The President in this speech talked a lot about Republicans giving tax cuts to the	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#52
yes, you must be dreaming	bigtree	Jan 2012	#62
Thanks for that, bigtree!	pnorman	Jan 2012	#77
No, I was trying to avoid the whole blue link fandango for this reason	villager	Jan 2012	#78
Thanks Big Tree! nt	One of the 99	Jan 2012	#81
LOL. Your list doesn't mention NAFTA. Easy to list "kept" promises--just pretend the broken ones	Romulox	Jan 2012	#73
Yes, WE!	Avalux	Jan 2012	#4
I mean yes, "we" might fight for these things -- does the White House?	villager	Jan 2012	#11
Either we're in this together, or they win.	Avalux	Jan 2012	#14
I would agree. I would also hope you get the White House to come 'round to that point of view.	villager	Jan 2012	#17
The unfortunate reality, is the "we" (if we include Obama) have not fought for what we should.	HuckleB	Jan 2012	#15
That struck me first.	emilyg	Jan 2012	#49
Y'know: Like a PUBLIC OPTION for health care	kenny blankenship	Jan 2012	#51
k&r...	spanone	Jan 2012	#3
Who's that old guy in the last photo?	BeyondGeography	Jan 2012	#5
heh	bigtree	Jan 2012	#27
I feel bad for him about the suddenly-grey issue --	downwardly_mobile	Jan 2012	#50
Sometimes it feels like 'we' are always fighting 'you' on keeping your past promises	DJ13	Jan 2012	#7
Sure seems like	pangaia	Jan 2012	#8
'you are on your own economics.'"	FreakinDJ	Jan 2012	#9
What are you really fighting for, Obama?	RC	Jan 2012	#12
That's really the question, isn't it?	villager	Jan 2012	#16
don't pretend you're actually listening	bigtree	Jan 2012	#21
Alas, it's because I've been paying attention, rather than digesting press releases, that I question	villager	Jan 2012	#22
well then	bigtree	Jan 2012	#24
ah, the reasoned discussion comes out at last.	villager	Jan 2012	#32
and you've offered nothing here	bigtree	Jan 2012	#37
Well, you offered Politifact too.	villager	Jan 2012	#79
He's eyeing an internet ID.	woo me with science	Jan 2012	#33
I'm looking forward to Obama's negative campaigning	Enrique	Jan 2012	#20
well these are just excerpts, but he did offer a bit of both	bigtree	Jan 2012	#23
Sorry, but that was 2008. Occupy 2012 is where the fight is going. Nice load of pics, tho. (nt) (nr)	T S Justly	Jan 2012	#34
Mediocracy, half-handed measures and corporate cronyism are at stake?! nt	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#38
Is that your platform?	bigtree	Jan 2012	#44
where have I heard that before?	bigtree	Jan 2012	#59
Here is a list of the people in the Obama admin with ties to Goldman Sachs.	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#60
so you've just smeared them by association	bigtree	Jan 2012	#61
"Smearing by association"? Project much?	Edweird	Jan 2012	#64
Sorry if you read valid criticism as smearing but...	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#65
you're just twisting	bigtree	Jan 2012	#69
Yeah, sure. The Wall Street connections are purely coincidental and totally unrelated	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#70
talk about a fairy tale!	bigtree	Jan 2012	#71
Is that from a speech given at a Goldman Shareholders Meeting? n/t	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#39
ooh	bigtree	Jan 2012	#41
Anyone but an (R) for 2012	PowerToThePeople	Jan 2012	#40
That's all that mattered to you?	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#45
Well, repeal the Bush tax cuts for the rich too, but...	PowerToThePeople	Jan 2012	#46
Fair enough. Fairly privileged but fully legitimate view to hold.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#47
Maybe I'll hold my nose and vote for Obama. But we only got our UNIFORMED troops out of Iraq.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#55
Meh, I was kind of hoping for a shift left, but that is so damn bi-partisan it makes me wanna puke.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#42
“Americans are sick and tired of ... [putting] the next election ahead of the next generation."	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#54
Everything that we fought for was at stake in the LAST election!	Withywindle	Jan 2012	#56
I like it. I think that will resonate with many voters.	DCBob	Jan 2012	#57
We who?	MadHound	Jan 2012	#63
most of his promises were kept	bigtree	Jan 2012	#67
Woohoo! Gimme more of that 'selling foreclosed homes to investors'!	Edweird	Jan 2012	#66
my home was rescued because of the initiative of this President	bigtree	Jan 2012	#68
That's a compelling pitch! "Obama saved MY home".	Edweird	Jan 2012	#76
WE! You could have fought a lot harder Mr. President.	Hotler	Jan 2012	#72
Remember how hard the President "fought" for Single Payer?	Romulox	Jan 2012	#74
sure as hell is.	lonestarnot	Jan 2012	#75
Obama fought for something? That's news to me...	ddeclue	Jan 2012	#80
Thankfully, most people don't get into the minutiuae that political junkies like us	Proud Liberal Dem	Jan 2012	#82
you mean like a public option to end the stranglehold insurance corporations have on sick people...	mike_c	Jan 2012	#83
K&R. n/t	FSogol	Jan 2012	#84

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