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What the fuck was he doing there? lapfog_1 Nov 2021 #1
Why was anyone out there ? MichMan Nov 2021 #4
That was an issue for the police, not armed civilians lapfog_1 Nov 2021 #8
Gaige Grosskreutz was armed Polybius Nov 2021 #33
And why Grosskreutz aimed his gun, but didn't fire, at a man who also had a gun, I will never know. Steelrolled Nov 2021 #124
Why was anyone there? Yarnie Nov 2021 #6
Was he charged with a curfew violation? In any event, a curfew violation does not legally kelly1mm Nov 2021 #9
Charge was dismissed because the prosecution couldn't be bothered to prove it DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2021 #27
Well, not quite. Dr. Strange Nov 2021 #67
I did hear something on that DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2021 #72
Everyone would be charged with curfew manicdem Nov 2021 #115
It doesn't matter Sympthsical Nov 2021 #12
Are you sure you're not a lawyer? Tomconroy Nov 2021 #21
I've learned a lot during this Sympthsical Nov 2021 #36
It's boring but you would be good at it. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #89
It matters a great deal to the dead lapfog_1 Nov 2021 #28
It doesn't matter to the law Sympthsical Nov 2021 #34
Why was anyone there? pinkstarburst Nov 2021 #44
and yet for all the rioting and being out past curfew lapfog_1 Nov 2021 #68
Ya know, we have a two tier justice system, beyond denial. 2Gingersnaps Nov 2021 #91
Yes it should be a complete and total shock milestogo Nov 2021 #2
I agree but Rittenhouse should not have been there. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #3
I agree with every word you've just said Sympthsical Nov 2021 #20
Me too. forthemiddle Nov 2021 #109
Oh yeah. LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #60
You touch on the crux of the argument Dave says Nov 2021 #75
The prosecutor did make that case... demmerick Nov 2021 #103
Agreed, not to the jury Dave says Nov 2021 #116
The jury is the only body that matters. Calista241 Nov 2021 #178
X1000 2Gingersnaps Nov 2021 #94
X1000 2Gingersnaps Nov 2021 #95
Not to assume others will get away with what we all know Hortensis Nov 2021 #97
Mr. Rittenhouse had a very good lawyer. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #5
No WHITT Nov 2021 #11
They aren't mutually exclusive. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #13
The judge decided a number of very important things in favor of the prosecution. Calista241 Nov 2021 #179
Mr. Rittenhouse had a lousy prosecutor (n/t) PJMcK Nov 2021 #14
That too. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #16
+10000000000000000 Celerity Nov 2021 #19
I think this was a case where the prosecutor was pressured into bringing Steelrolled Nov 2021 #125
You are not the first I heard suggest that Hav Nov 2021 #126
No, he had a judge who was a MAGA superfan. Initech Nov 2021 #23
No, Mr. Rittenhouse had a very "good" judge. nt Colgate 64 Nov 2021 #77
Facts are always good, thanks for spelling it out Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2021 #7
Wisconsin really needs to look at its gun laws Sympthsical Nov 2021 #17
The NRA guys at work were to the point of being giddy today hydrolastic Nov 2021 #150
Yup... IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 2021 #29
I saw one video clip Yarnie Nov 2021 #30
If the reporting had been fact-based and investigative, janterry Nov 2021 #10
Agree Raven123 Nov 2021 #101
It is absolutely not a surprise jcgoldie Nov 2021 #15
+1 Celerity Nov 2021 #24
This! nt. spicysista Nov 2021 #58
Agree. It's what I expected. Shrike47 Nov 2021 #83
Not surprised, but very sick and incredibly pissed off over this. Initech Nov 2021 #18
Fan Club! greenjar_01 Nov 2021 #22
Big fan of the law Sympthsical Nov 2021 #37
Yeah.. the judge has a fan quakerboy Nov 2021 #42
I was being swayed by your argument until... lame54 Nov 2021 #55
My intent is simply this Sympthsical Nov 2021 #57
Always fascinating to hear what a non-lawyer thinks Colgate 64 Nov 2021 #79
We all saw the same laws and instructions n/t Sympthsical Nov 2021 #107
One thing is "seeing" the law. Another is knowing Colgate 64 Nov 2021 #151
Well, I was just as informed as any jury member Sympthsical Nov 2021 #152
How do you imagine you're "just as informed as any jury member" when you Colgate 64 Nov 2021 #162
This message was self-deleted by its author demmerick Nov 2021 #110
I am a fan of justice. But in many cases, certainly NOT the law. dchill Nov 2021 #108
Yeah, well said. We have to live in the real world Hav Nov 2021 #25
There's been almost no analysis of the prosecution tirebiter Nov 2021 #26
The prosecution had an uphill fight from the start. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #31
I've read Yarnie Nov 2021 #32
I'm wondering that as well AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2021 #76
almost immediately, I recall seeing the on the ground ones the day after Amishman Nov 2021 #87
Their argument was that Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum into Hav Nov 2021 #47
"Everyone takes a beating sometimes." Sympthsical Nov 2021 #52
That's exactly the phrase I meant Hav Nov 2021 #63
Beyond A Reasonable Doubt DallasNE Nov 2021 #118
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #56
It was clear from the beginning that the defense had a much better case localroger Nov 2021 #35
I thought that gun charge was a slam dunk Sympthsical Nov 2021 #41
As A Straw Purchase I Felt The Same Way DallasNE Nov 2021 #138
K and r. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #38
The scariest thing I read here this past week GusBob Nov 2021 #98
This will spawn many more murders quakerboy Nov 2021 #39
Rittenhouse is like Harry Mudd navigating the bar fight in The Trouble with Tribbles localroger Nov 2021 #53
You're mixing metaphors brooklynite Nov 2021 #59
Ah, you're right. Thanks for the correction. localroger Nov 2021 #61
Thank you Philosophizing Fool Nov 2021 #40
I'm sorry, but you've got one giant crater-sized logical hole in your analysis. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #43
What's that? Sympthsical Nov 2021 #49
You claim he retreated, and next then you say "After shooting Rosenbaum..." Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #62
Evidence shows Rosenbaum going for Rittenhouse Sympthsical Nov 2021 #70
So we're talking about a hand versus an AR-15. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #74
Hands are deadly weapons Sympthsical Nov 2021 #80
AR-15s are much deadlier. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #81
"AR-15s are much deadlier." And yet the facts show otherwise. EX500rider Nov 2021 #129
And head to head, someone with an AR-15 (or any gun for that matter) versus... Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #130
My argument is that if hands & feet kill more people then they are more dangerous statistically EX500rider Nov 2021 #131
Nope! ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #163
If your chances of being killed by a object are higher then it is more dangerous to you... EX500rider Nov 2021 #165
So if you were in the military and went to war Redleg Nov 2021 #169
Life as a civilian and life in a warzone have very different dangers. EX500rider Nov 2021 #171
I don't get it Hav Nov 2021 #172
Of course the AR wins Zeitghost Nov 2021 #136
Person with the AR has advantage, of course. yagotme Nov 2021 #176
That is what happened n/t Devil Child Nov 2021 #51
With a huge "yada yada yada" in between. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #64
I'll say this d_b Nov 2021 #45
Fuck that noise. orangecrush Nov 2021 #46
Thank you for taking the time to spell out, yet again, some basics re this case Devil Child Nov 2021 #48
I Believe WHITT Nov 2021 #50
I think so, too Sympthsical Nov 2021 #54
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!! nt Colgate 64 Nov 2021 #82
I agree pinkstarburst Nov 2021 #65
So, being a homeless ex con geardaddy Nov 2021 #111
No Zeitghost Nov 2021 #121
Huber was trying to stop a fleeing active shooter. Doing what the police failed to do. Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #148
"Fleeing". That's the problem. At that point, it's "Self Defense". Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #154
Running from a murder he'd just committed. Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #157
Um... No, citizens aren't "Supposed" to chase down a fleeing suspect, no. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #159
"Murder he'd just committed..." yagotme Nov 2021 #177
They were... from their point of view pinkstarburst Nov 2021 #160
Good post pinkstarburst Devil Child Nov 2021 #161
I don't think it has been a surprise to most people. Captain Stern Nov 2021 #66
Two of the guys he shot came after him after he had shot somebody else. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #78
Yes, that's what we were told. Captain Stern Nov 2021 #88
... Crepuscular Nov 2021 #90
According to a cohort of Rittenhouse. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #99
I really don't understand how this got turned into a cause celebre. demmerick Nov 2021 #114
Then, try to understand. Captain Stern Nov 2021 #122
Agreed. Politics does things to people. Steelrolled Nov 2021 #127
Your post and the OP here are both well said. Ace Rothstein Nov 2021 #166
Yep, I agree. The jury got it right based on the facts and evidence presented in the trial. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #69
I think we can all agree that if a black guy came into Kenosha with bullwinkle428 Nov 2021 #71
Yeah, distinct possibility Sympthsical Nov 2021 #73
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #134
As mentioned in another thread Zeitghost Nov 2021 #137
Thanks. TwilightZone Nov 2021 #84
Sympthsical.... Upthevibe Nov 2021 #85
Just watched it. Thanks. jeffreyi Nov 2021 #102
Thanks. Great assessment. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2021 #153
Without a firearm, Rittenhouse would have been fine that night. maxsolomon Nov 2021 #86
Had Rosenbaum not chased after Rittenhouse. all three would have been fine. Kaleva Nov 2021 #140
+1 Kaleva n/t Devil Child Nov 2021 #142
If nazis had not let another nazi off the hook Meowmee Nov 2021 #92
So the jurors are Nazis because they didn't return the verdict you wanted? Really? N/T Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #133
Do you realize just how stupid that sounds? MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2021 #167
It has nothing to do with what I wanted Meowmee Nov 2021 #185
So, in your mind, the jurors were nazi's for following the law as written in WI. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2021 #186
You are on ignore Meowmee Nov 2021 #187
Well, that just breaks my heart. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2021 #188
Regardless of the victims criminal history, IzzaNuDay Nov 2021 #93
I'm never surprised when a tRumv lovin fascist judge helps a fascist shooter go free. yaesu Nov 2021 #96
Verdict was just what the Judge ordered aeromanKC Nov 2021 #100
The prosecution were a bunch of knuckleheads DiegoGarcia Nov 2021 #104
This is a VERY sad day for America and people who deserve justice. ananda Nov 2021 #105
Only lesson I learned and already knew was.. EX500rider Nov 2021 #106
A well thought out argument. bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #112
Heres the thing brettdale Nov 2021 #113
If Rittenhouse had been black madville Nov 2021 #147
TOTALLY on point 👍 Raine Nov 2021 #117
I'm actually more surprised people genuinely thought he'd be convicted. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #119
It wasn't a surprise to most people. Captain Stern Nov 2021 #120
Agree 100% Steelrolled Nov 2021 #123
One of the hardest things recently has been trying Hav Nov 2021 #128
Great post. PDT69 Nov 2021 #132
I'm reading a Reddit thread of all things. ismnotwasm Nov 2021 #135
You're "ok" that the tRumpy judge tried his best to get an acquittal for a fellow fascist? yaesu Nov 2021 #139
At least 60 "liberals" on this board are ok with it. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2021 #144
Who the fuck said anything about being "ok" with any of this shit? ismnotwasm Nov 2021 #146
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Has anyone figured out why they stated chasing Rittenhouse in the first place? ripcord Nov 2021 #145
Rittenhouse extinguished a fire set by Rosenbaum in a dumpster being pushed down the street Devil Child Nov 2021 #149
I find it hard to believe this whole thing started because Rittenhouse stopped an arson ripcord Nov 2021 #156
Somehow, progressives have found themselves Steelrolled Nov 2021 #158
I get that the people he shot were not angels Bucky Nov 2021 #164
Yes, exactly. nt Raine Nov 2021 #168
And Rittenhouse was their judge, jury, and executioner Redleg Nov 2021 #170
Rittenhouse is a dumbfuck who should have stayed home Hav Nov 2021 #174
The point is that most Dems aren't idolizing the 3 victims Redleg Nov 2021 #183
Some of the current protests have people that are idolizing them: yagotme Nov 2021 #190
Are these Democratic elected officials? Redleg Nov 2021 #191
Agreed. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2021 #155
You are missing something KT2000 Nov 2021 #173
It just doesn't matter Sympthsical Nov 2021 #175
Intent is very much KT2000 Nov 2021 #181
If a school shooter, etc., during the commission of a crime, yagotme Nov 2021 #180
A kid shows up to a demonstration KT2000 Nov 2021 #182
The problem is that under the law he did nothing wrong ripcord Nov 2021 #184
"Murdered 2 people". yagotme Nov 2021 #189
Is the Gungeon being remodeled or something? 48656c6c6f20 Nov 2021 #192
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