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Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
87. "But facts matter and we should always get them right."
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 07:41 PM
Nov 2021

DU's reaction to the Rittenhouse trial was immensely disheartening, honestly. For a community that prides itself on being "reality-based" and that purports to trade in facts and logic, most of DU's response to the trial was laughable. The constant repetition of "facts" that had been debunked umpty-ump times, the refusal to acknowledge actual facts that were inconvenient to the narrative people wished to be true, it was a total shitshow. And the crowning absurdity was that those of us who actually bothered to watch the trial and learn the facts were smeared as Rittenhouse's "fan club."

Most of DU chose, and continues to choose, to live in a fantasy world wherein inconvenient facts are simply ignored when it comes to the Rittenhouse trial. When I saw a thread about the narrative the right was weaving about the Waukesha parade incident and how silly it was, all I could do was shake my head in resignation. The old adage about glass houses comes to mind.

I guess he wasn't following the trial that closely Ocelot II Nov 2021 #1
why is it that some people seem more offended by Mr. Reiner's words Skittles Nov 2021 #2
Thank You ! Nitpickers will nitpick... nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #3
I am SICK of them Skittles Nov 2021 #6
He illegally used another person to purchase his weapon. PdamnedQ Nov 2021 #8
Facts are important, they aren't nits to be picked. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #12
Thanks. Facts DO matter. And repeating FALSE information stopdiggin Nov 2021 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #93
Bravo... FarPoint Nov 2021 #5
+1. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #18
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 Very good question. onecaliberal Nov 2021 #36
THIS malaise Nov 2021 #48
THIS. AngryOldDem Nov 2021 #52
Like someone else said TheFarseer Nov 2021 #59
two people were murdered by a racist gun humping piece of shit Skittles Nov 2021 #80
That goof is not the big point I took from Reiner's words. Hortensis Nov 2021 #64
Because we like the truth Polybius Nov 2021 #77
LOL Skittles Nov 2021 #79
So you're ok with lying to make a point? Polybius Nov 2021 #94
so you're OK with murdering to make a point? Skittles Nov 2021 #100
You're twisting into things that make zero sense and have nothing to do with each other Polybius Nov 2021 #107
+1... myohmy2 Nov 2021 #84
Bullseye, Skittles. Many thanks. (nt) Paladin Nov 2021 #95
This take is tiresome blogslug Nov 2021 #4
In his defense, he didn't name anyone. Rob is a rock solid Democrat. Nt Baked Potato Nov 2021 #7
Well, the jury in WI judged according to WI law. Don't agree with their laws but I don't blame the captain queeg Nov 2021 #9
Yes the judge not only had his thumb on the scale Tribetime Nov 2021 #53
Whether he took the gun across state lines Phoenix61 Nov 2021 #10
Right. That's what most people thought until it came out in the trial that the gun... brush Nov 2021 #14
the fact that you're repeating erroneous stopdiggin Nov 2021 #25
This is a ridiculous judgement zaj Nov 2021 #58
quite true. but you can make some effort to acquaint stopdiggin Nov 2021 #73
This standard means mistakes are intolerable... zaj Nov 2021 #91
you sure? stopdiggin Nov 2021 #74
I see what you say, but... zaj Nov 2021 #92
Where the hell did this myth start that ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #11
There are some circumstances where it's illegal but mostly it isn't. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #13
The only time it is illegal is ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #15
I think it was because the killer was underaged, turns out it wasn't because of that. brush Nov 2021 #16
Humans are weird in that way. ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #19
IMO though that killer deserves many years in prison.Wisconsin got it wrong. brush Nov 2021 #20
That's what you got? dpibel Nov 2021 #30
Lighten up, Francis. ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #38
Ummm...yeah dpibel Nov 2021 #39
What seems to be problem? ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #40
You are, however, dpibel Nov 2021 #41
Apparently you have not been reading much here nor ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #43
I did not call you an idiot dpibel Nov 2021 #47
Meh. It's what the media coughed up for weeks leftstreet Nov 2021 #17
Rob Reiner has it right here aeromanKC Nov 2021 #21
that looks worse... Takket Nov 2021 #23
The words are true. Everyone needs to make sure this sentiment is repeated every day. aeromanKC Nov 2021 #31
The problem is that he didn't illegal arm himself ripcord Nov 2021 #62
Well Rob Reiner got one fact wrong so all of what he said was wrong???? Get a life folks. Srkdqltr Nov 2021 #24
Seriously. johnp3907 Nov 2021 #26
He probably can't even tell a Glock from a Ruger Pinback Nov 2021 #27
"Grossly?" johnp3907 Nov 2021 #28
WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING TO THIS Equomba thing????? a kennedy Nov 2021 #29
Equomba has been escorted from the building Hekate Nov 2021 #98
Thanks, thought something going on with him/her.......ugh. a kennedy Nov 2021 #105
TBH, I don't quite believe you. dpibel Nov 2021 #32
the hit and run folk are pretty obvious Skittles Nov 2021 #33
He clearly thinks Rittenhouse is a gun-humping rube, harmful to society. Hard to argue with that. Hoyt Nov 2021 #34
Equomba appears to be grossly misplaced. ZZenith Nov 2021 #35
Well clearly that absolves Rittenhouse's documented behavior... Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #37
This asshole lived in Illinois and took the rifle to Wisconsin LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #42
The rifle Zeitghost Nov 2021 #44
the rifle actually was already in Wisconsin Skittles Nov 2021 #45
It "offends" people because it's incorrect and facts matter. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #57
"But facts matter and we should always get them right." Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #87
DUers are as susceptible to confirmation bias as anyone else. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #89
I saw that Sympthsical Nov 2021 #104
The gun was purchased in WI - a friend bought it for him. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #56
It wasn't a straw purchase ripcord Nov 2021 #63
Then what did he shoot those people with? Ocelot II Nov 2021 #65
It is no different than a kid paying for a hunting rifle and his father buying it in his name ripcord Nov 2021 #67
Really? Ocelot II Nov 2021 #70
yes. if Rittenhouse supplied the money stopdiggin Nov 2021 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #81
No hunter would use an AR-15...spare me the BS... I do come from a family that hunts Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #82
You might come from a familty of hunter but you aren't an expert on this ripcord Nov 2021 #85
I think you mean no hunter you personally know. EX500rider Nov 2021 #96
Should be illegal for Republicans to cross state lines. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2021 #46
Seems like some are still focused on the minutiae Diablo del sol Nov 2021 #49
Right or wrong with facts never seems to make s difference Raine Nov 2021 #50
OK. He's wrong on that point. But everything else is spot on. AngryOldDem Nov 2021 #51
He got away with it because it was self defense ripcord Nov 2021 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Nov 2021 #102
he provoked them Skittles Nov 2021 #106
Can I unrecommend a post Tribetime Nov 2021 #54
he has been tombstoned Skittles Nov 2021 #103
If we want to be the party of truth janterry Nov 2021 #55
"Grossly uninformed" is a bit of an overstatement PatSeg Nov 2021 #60
Yes, let's concentrate on the rifle part edhopper Nov 2021 #61
The Rifle Was Recovered In Antioch ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #66
The gun's owner was in the car, too Sympthsical Nov 2021 #69
I Can See... ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #71
It has to do with the fact Black stored it at home Sympthsical Nov 2021 #72
thanks. that's the clearest summation stopdiggin Nov 2021 #76
Oh. Look. It's inane detail guy. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #78
"You can't handle the truth!" egduj Nov 2021 #83
Yours is the most important take on the events of this week. Iggo Nov 2021 #86
Equomba appears to be grossly tombstoned. A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2021 #88
. UnderThisLaw Nov 2021 #90
Good. AngryOldDem Nov 2021 #97
And Rob Reiner (D) is still not a dingbat... Hekate Nov 2021 #99
I wish that was true of every Rittenhouse apologist here Skittles Nov 2021 #101
Oh, hey! The don't just go under review anymore, eh? Iggo Nov 2021 #108
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