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104. Okay, I changed a few words and took out some others and the fact still remains

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 09:10 PM

Nov 2021

... the same

our messaging sucks big time

Only 64%, Democrats were more likely than Republicans, at 43%, or independents, at 42%, to express concern about voter disenfranchisement, reflecting a concern within the party about voter suppression ..

That sucks big time, we need to change that

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What's wrong with our 'messaging'? [View all] NanceGreggs Nov 2021 OP

Yes. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #1

We own way less megaphones. In fact we own none robbedvoter Nov 2021 #2

Another thing wrong with our messaging wnylib Nov 2021 #3

Yet another 'message' ... NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #6

It would not be ignored any more wnylib Nov 2021 #12

I've never advocated ... NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #15

Correct but WHEN we speak the truth matters as much as how loud and often, we're getting our uponit7771 Nov 2021 #87

That's good to know. wnylib Nov 2021 #91

+1, "..Good messaging appeals to how people feel.." uponit7771 Nov 2021 #95

+1, TM only defined Youngkin in VA gov race after his poll numbers went down we can define... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #86

And you have to add the "shoebox" element. calimary Nov 2021 #96

+1,000,000 nt Jarqui Nov 2021 #9

1500 coordinated ignored radio stations is their only unique advantage. see comment below certainot Nov 2021 #25

"Why didn't Dems stop ____ ?" betsuni Nov 2021 #26

It's not just all those radio stations. It's TV and cable. Like Pox Noise. calimary Nov 2021 #45

Then we get our own damn news stations, only 64% of democrats believe voter suppression is a uponit7771 Nov 2021 #73

Yes!!! But unfortunately we had one and it just didn't gain any traction. calimary Nov 2021 #92

Just read we are actually under utilizing radio stations in CoC like Miami Dade and South Texas ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #94

air america was competing with a well established monopoly. it was mom and pop vs walmart certainot Nov 2021 #98

the way to beat rw radio is to destroy it. every advertiser, ad co, as well as university and pro certainot Nov 2021 #99

TV, internet are part of the free speech spectrum. rw radio is the only unique advantage they have certainot Nov 2021 #97

You have said it right on the money. MSM is owned by the oligarchs. overleft Nov 2021 #35

+1,We have a way we're not using it. We have radio in CoC that are not flooded with our message uponit7771 Nov 2021 #71

Yep. calimary Nov 2021 #93

The problem is simple. MrWiggles Nov 2021 #4

Thank you for your less than insightful ... NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #8

I second that emotion. calimary Nov 2021 #52

Biden wishy washy? wnylib Nov 2021 #16

The problem is simple? Corporate Dems. HARD. betsuni Nov 2021 #22

bullshit. when dem and prog 'leaders' figure out the only unique difference is radio the rest is certainot Nov 2021 #33

Bernie in charge of PR would only appeal to voters we already have. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #36

I think you're posting this as a false flag to stir up shit against progressives & promote division Celerity Nov 2021 #47

Yup. Good call. nt DLevine Nov 2021 #51

Indeed. calimary Nov 2021 #54

THANK YOU. betsuni Nov 2021 #5

They were the wrong "slogans." wnylib Nov 2021 #21

In thinking of creating the most powerful message we could send, taxi Nov 2021 #109

Very well done. twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #7

Democrats are held to a different set of rules Martin Eden Nov 2021 #10

Trumps gish gallop of Trump Horrible could've been defeated with proper mechanics of ...... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #83

Honesty, decency, fairness and competence TNNurse Nov 2021 #11

They are popular but ***NOT*** calling out what the GQP is doing as evil isn't effective at making uponit7771 Nov 2021 #59

We should engage where we can bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #65

omg, this should be its own OP itself. The GQP are NOT DOUBT working infrastructure that's ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #75

flaggings free bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #77

!!! elias7 Nov 2021 #13

Nope. That's not it. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #14

My point is ... NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #18

And mine is that we DO have a problem with messaging. And rather than pretending it isn't an issue, Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #29

If it's "not that difficult to do" ... NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #39

Stacy Abrams managed to reach huge swaths of voters we had previously never reached, and Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #40

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 "but their mechanics are very much worth copying." I've been saying this for ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #61

Only 64% of democrats believe Voter Suppression is a problem (link) That's a problem with messaging uponit7771 Nov 2021 #60

some Dems get out in front way more than others Tetrachloride Nov 2021 #20

If we made Stacy Abrams the head of the DNC, we would see in retrospect how many Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #27

+1, SA went to CoC where dem messaging was missing in 2020. Miami Dade was disgusting example uponit7771 Nov 2021 #76

+1, TM in VA gov race didn't define Trumpkin as a Trumper till late in the race when his polls ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #48

It's a problem of distribution. We target the wrong demographic too ... Auggie Nov 2021 #31

+1, the 2020 post mortem said we didn't target PoC communities SPECIFICLY enough we peanut uponit7771 Nov 2021 #49

THANK YOU !!! Only 64% of democrats think voter suppression is a problem, that's messaging uponit7771 Nov 2021 #42

And the infrastructure bill has already fallen out of the news cycle madville Nov 2021 #72

It never got into the news cycle. But if we targeted social media and Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #78

+1, " and yes, radio" GQP used it in Miami Dade and gained 200,000 more votes with it uponit7771 Nov 2021 #81

Those are long term benefits though many years from now madville Nov 2021 #82

Thanks. The "message" thing reminds me panader0 Nov 2021 #17

Not a "bullshit term" at all Roy Rolling Nov 2021 #24

I disagree. I am not enamored by "glitz". You may be. panader0 Nov 2021 #28

You already vote, and vote Democratic. You are not one of the people we are not reaching. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #32

"I am not" we're not talking about engaged voters like you, we're talking about the 40% of black uponit7771 Nov 2021 #50

The poster I was responding to said "The whole society is enamored by glitz". panader0 Nov 2021 #62

You're right, we don't have to "play their game" but we NO DOUBT need to copy their mechanics uponit7771 Nov 2021 #67

Leave me out of this now Roy Rolling Nov 2021 #113

We're also talking about the Latin American vote, which is beginning to slip away from us and which Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #64

+1, 2020 South Texas and Miami Dade was a travesty !! Dems act like Stacy Abrams doesn't exist uponit7771 Nov 2021 #80

Messaging JackSabbath Nov 2021 #58

Amen Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #19

it's the VOLUME! the bloody radio is the only unique advantage they have. at $1000/hr worth $5B/yr certainot Nov 2021 #23

I would say it's radio and social media, and social media is a more effective vehicle for us. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #34

most of the 'successful' social media piggybacks 30 yrs of rw radio - like fox. soc media is certainot Nov 2021 #37

I agree that radio is the driver of the right wing. But unless we are going to put a LOT of Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #38

Q soc media campaign started in nov 2017, 10 mo after limbaugh began attacking 'librul deep state' certainot Nov 2021 #44

We don't need to, we can just flood CoC radio stations to be effective, we didn't in 2020 and look uponit7771 Nov 2021 #90

They have bots on SM that are worked near 100% daily, we can do the same. We lack in Radio ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #89

Nance, Your message is the message we must get America to understand. The Jungle 1 Nov 2021 #30

****DEMOCRATS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO MESSAGE !!!***** Only 64% of democrats think voter uponit7771 Nov 2021 #41

From the article you've cited: NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #101

K, ONLY 64% of democrats are more likely to expres concern about voter disenfranchisement,.. better? uponit7771 Nov 2021 #103

Again, that's NOT what it says. NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #105

Which is still extremely low seeing GQP isn't likely to express concern over suppression at all !!! uponit7771 Nov 2021 #108

I am a Proud Democrat (capital P, capital D)... dixiechiken1 Nov 2021 #43

+1, Only 64% of democrats believe Voter Suppression is a problem (link). That's bad messaging uponit7771 Nov 2021 #57

We need parallel messaging to appeal low and high, and our own media outlet to make noise bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #46

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 We need an messaging infrastructure that works minimum at the same amplitude ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #53

Yeah, we shouldn't demonize them .... lastlib Nov 2021 #63

I disagree... myohmy2 Nov 2021 #55

There is no debate ... NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #66

"...should Democrats resort to lying..." myohmy2 Nov 2021 #69

Yeah, good thinking. NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #74

We don't have to do that, we can "go high" AND be effective Stacy Abrams was and look what happened uponit7771 Nov 2021 #79

We can go high and tell the truth too, only 64% of democrats think voter suppression is a problem uponit7771 Nov 2021 #70

Yes, look at what Stacy Abrams did in CoC ! The 2020 down ballot post mortems said our message uponit7771 Nov 2021 #68

You answered your own question, Nance. lastlib Nov 2021 #56

Democrats Deliver! emanymton69 Nov 2021 #84

Nothing wrong with messaging. rownesheck Nov 2021 #85

Only 64% of democrats believe Voter Suppression is a problem (link), there's something wrong with uponit7771 Nov 2021 #88

Why are you persisting ... NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #102

Okay, I changed a few words and took out some others and the fact still remains uponit7771 Nov 2021 #104

Yet again ... NanceGreggs Nov 2021 #106

Yeah, the numbers not 99% and it should be with the right message from DNC uponit7771 Nov 2021 #107

we dont play on fear like they do. mopinko Nov 2021 #100

Our message is splintered. The GOP uses like minded hate as the message. sarcasmo Nov 2021 #110

The only thing I can say is that CrackityJones75 Nov 2021 #111

Great Post. Diablo del sol Nov 2021 #112