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Cuthbert Allgood

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23. Poor Manchin.

Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:54 PM

Dec 2021

Seriously. Fuck that guy. HE is the problem here. Not those that correctly pointed out who he was.

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The monthly child tax credits have backfired on us [View all] Wanderlust988 Dec 2021 OP

We need to do what needs to be done to get it done... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #1

The Senate makes those later adjustments impossible to make. LonePirate Dec 2021 #5

Well then, let's continue to let perfect be the enemy of good. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #14

Exactly! Take what you can get and move on. Nixie Dec 2021 #15

I think the constant attacks made him dig in his heels... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #17

Poor Manchin. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #23

Nobody said that (except you). NurseJackie Dec 2021 #27

So if we gave him what he wanted he would have voted for it? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #31

No. I didn't "essentially say" anything of the sort. That's ridiculous. Stop it. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #33

Finally NJ! A voice of reason and reality. Finally. Nixie Dec 2021 #25

Very kind of you to say. Apparently, I get under people's skin... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #30

I know what you mean, but I've noticed it's the same business Nixie Dec 2021 #39

It's his job to always do the right thing, even while being called names Shermann Dec 2021 #29

Perhaps so. But the bullying tactics and harassment certainly backfired... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #32

Everyone is trying to read Manchin's mind at the moment Shermann Dec 2021 #34

Work requirement JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #2

I think the work requirement would be for able bodied adults Wanderlust988 Dec 2021 #4

Yes, that was one of the most egregious things I've ever seen... keep_left Dec 2021 #7

The work requirement is an old racist trope that does little to address extreme poverty. LonePirate Dec 2021 #3

Therein lies the problem.... Wanderlust988 Dec 2021 #8

You are assuming that Manchin is negotiating, or argues in "Good Faith" Caliman73 Dec 2021 #6

The WaPo said Manchin's proposal was pretty close to Biden's Wanderlust988 Dec 2021 #10

And we all know that when he says he'll back something Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #24

Manchin has been moving the goalposts for months jcgoldie Dec 2021 #26

The sticking point was doing anything at all for anyone except the wealthy. Caliman73 Dec 2021 #35

Let's campaign on extending them and let the voters decide ... dawg Dec 2021 #9

You are arguing based on the false premise that voters think clearly Silent3 Dec 2021 #13

Let me just point out that a work requirement can add a tremendous amount of overhead costs Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #11

He is insisting it be for 10 years rather than 1 iemanja Dec 2021 #12

I agree people shouldn't be given the tax credit if they are able to work doc03 Dec 2021 #16

Ever hear of Advance Earned Income Credit? Ms. Toad Dec 2021 #18

If it wasn't child tax credits, it would be something else! Emile Dec 2021 #19

Yes, exactly. Nothing to do with tax credits. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #21

No. Manchin doesn't care about child tax credits at all. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #20

I politely disagree. Families will remember it was Biden, the dems. It might have been his lindysalsagal Dec 2021 #22

Call his bluff and alter the plan. There is too much good in the plan JCMach1 Dec 2021 #28

The only problem with welfare, is welfare for poor people RANDYWILDMAN Dec 2021 #36

Yup Johonny Dec 2021 #37

Work requirement?? Oh my god no WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #38

How did it backfire? Are you saying this just because of Manchin's bullshit or did I miss GoodRaisin Dec 2021 #40